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About present continuous

 
 
Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2006 11:10 am
In the present continuous, one of the uses is in the near future or

immediate plan I guess. For all the verbs we should mention the time of the action.

For instance,

-I'm meeting Peter tonight.

-Are you doing anything tomorrow's afternoon?

This because we don't want to make a confusion between the present

meaning and the future meaning. Except in two verbs come and go, you

don't have to specify a time of action ( as the rule says ) , then how should

we tell it's future or present?

Why come and go are different?

Thanks
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Goldmund
 
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Reply Sun 12 Feb, 2006 04:32 pm
Dear Navigator,

It is my opinion that confusion may exist with «to come» and «to go» also.

Therefore «Are you coming?» means now or in the future. It is therefore my opinion that if it is possible to be confused, we must add an expression of time.

It is sometimes not possible to be confused, however. It is a question of the situation. Smile

Kind regards, Smile

Goldmund
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2006 01:39 am
Goldmund's right, Nav, it depends on the situation and how rich the context is. If all parties to the conversation are on the same page, ie. they all are aware of the facts, then a time word is not absolutely necessary.

But you are right that a time word is often added to 'present progressive for the future'.

"I've been to Rome."

Does this mean sometime in my life or that I've just returned?

With a context, there'd be no doubts.
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navigator
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2006 02:02 pm
Thanks everybody, so it's about the situation and context. I was confused

by the book. I still have more questions about the present continuous. We

know that it's used in point of time like the example,

At six I'm bathing the baby.

Now, this means ( as read ) that the action started before six and

continued porbably after six. How can a person tell that? , I mean if I

heard this sentence I'd think that the action was within six.

Also, when using always in continuous the speaker's tone could imply that

he's annoyed or unsatisfied. It also could mean the opposite. Now, in the

following sentences,

- He's always losing his keys.

- Tom is always going away for weekends.

- He's always working.

- He's always reading.

What would be the speaker feeling saying this?

THANKS Smile
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JTT
 
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Reply Mon 13 Feb, 2006 04:29 pm
navigator wrote:
Thanks everybody, so it's about the situation and context. I was confused by the book.


In determinig meaning, Nav, consideration must always be given to the context/situation surrounding that language.


I still have more questions about the present continuous. We

know that it's used in point of time like the example,

At six I'm bathing the baby.

Now, this means ( as read ) that the action started before six and

continued porbably after six. How can a person tell that? , I mean if I

heard this sentence I'd think that the action was within six.

First, you have to separate the present continuous from the "present continuous for the future". Further, taken as a statement of exactness, [which it likely isn't because generally, no one is that exact about time.] it means the person will start bathing the baby around six.

Of course, common sense tells us that this is a durative [duration] type action so it will continue for an unspecified amount of time.


Also, when using always in continuous the speaker's tone could imply that

he's annoyed or unsatisfied. It also could mean the opposite. Now, in the

following sentences,

- He's always losing his keys.

- Tom is always going away for weekends.

- He's always working.

- He's always reading.

What would be the speaker feeling saying this?

Just as you said, Nav, "he's annoyed or unsatisfied. It also could mean the opposite". The context, the situation, would clue us in to what the intent of the speaker is.

THANKS Smile
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