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Passage ...... Where do you go after you die

 
 
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 05:56 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
rosborne, I agree with your posts concerning this discussion. I think you're barking up the wrong "oink" with gels. His mind is made up.


Hi CI. Yes, unfortunately I am forced to the same conclusion. Thanks Smile
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 07:02 pm
I shall make an attemt to get back on course after allowing myself to become involved in a conversation about one of my pet interest .... sorry, it wll not happen again. I stumbled over this while surfing today .... it's more on hte subject and really holds your interest:


Klik me
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Name
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 08:19 pm
to the origional comment my answer is:

it depends on the person but in my belief the ritchous will go to heven and the evil to hell



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kerver
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 08:53 pm
In my opinion, I'm not going to bother wasting my time wondering where i'm gonna go when i'm dead. I'll find out when I get there. Ease your mind and drop the subject.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 10:40 pm
kerver wrote:
In my opinion, I'm not going to bother wasting my time wondering where i'm gonna go when i'm dead. I'll find out when I get there. Ease your mind and drop the subject.


Why do you think my mind is not at ease?
You have no curiosity?
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kerver
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 10:58 pm
I'm sure your fine, it's a valid question. Everyone is curios at some point in our lives, I just think it's not worth wondering about. We have no control of such things anyway. I'm sorry if you took offense to what i said, i was more so being sarcastic i just didn't do a very good job at expressing that.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Tue 3 Feb, 2004 11:34 pm
kerver wrote:
I'm sure your fine, it's a valid question. Everyone is curios at some point in our lives, I just think it's not worth wondering about. We have no control of such things anyway. I'm sorry if you took offense to what i said, i was more so being sarcastic i just didn't do a very good job at expressing that.


No offense taken. The older you get the more curious you get abut passing back through the gate. When you said you would fin out whenyou are dead where you were going sounded like you have faith in an afterlife, that's all.
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kerver
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:47 am
Yes, I do believe in life after death.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 06:32 am
kerver wrote:
Yes, I do believe in life after death.
Excellent, an answer that isn't couched. Most people seem to be afraid to make a direct statement. They can't reference the spiritual as anything but physical. They find it so easy to accept the ectoplasmic but exceptionaly difficult to deal wth the implications of the protoplasmic, endoplasmic, cytoplasmic aspects of their nature. To even consider that a presence just as or even more miraculous than their own entity is just too much of a quantum leap ..... my body demands coffee ..... later Kerver and thanks, I needed that. Cool
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 07:41 am
Aw you - - - guys. You can't have life after death simply because it's prettier and comforting to believe. Good old rugged death; that's what it's all about.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 10:45 am
edgar, I'm not so sure about "rugged death." When my time comes, it comes - hopefully in my sleep. We have to be ready when most of our parents are gone, and our contemporaries are passing away more freqently as the days go by. Gotta be philosophical about this thing called death. Most in Africa see their life snuffed out before they reach forty. I'm now 68, and still relavtively healthy. My life has been pretty darn good compared to most on this planet. Nothing to complain - just appreciate, and accept the fact that this life is rather short when we enjoy it. Wink
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 11:07 am
Gelisgesti wrote:
kerver wrote:
Yes, I do believe in life after death.
Excellent, an answer that isn't couched.


Interesting that you should characterize Kerver's statement that way.

Actually -- the statement is couched.

By saying he "believes" there is life after death -- he is actually saying "I do not know, but my guess is that there is life after death."

The truly "uncouched" version would be a simple: "I do not know."


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Most people seem to be afraid to make a direct statement.


Many people seem to have trouble recognizing a direct statement.


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They can't reference the spiritual as anything but physical. They find it so easy to accept the ectoplasmic but exceptionaly difficult to deal wth the implications of the protoplasmic, endoplasmic, cytoplasmic aspects of their nature. To even consider that a presence just as or even more miraculous than their own entity is just too much of a quantum leap...


What an interesting way to say, "They just don't want to guess."



Hope you enjoyed the coffee, Ge'.
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kerver
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:02 pm
Hi Frank,
Just to inform you and anyone else here that may think I am a man. I am 100% WOman, just wanted to make that clear.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:08 pm
kerver wrote:
Hi Frank,
Just to inform you and anyone else here that may think I am a man. I am 100% WOman, just wanted to make that clear.


And a fine looking woman at that.

I started a thread a while back to ask how deal with personal pronouns when the gender of a person is not known.

No satisfactory answer was ever given.

I still occasionally use "he" or "she" interchangeably -- but to be honest, if it matters, it seems that changing your screen name to include a Jane or Mary or some other indicator is in order.

I hope to remember -- but I suspect you will run into this a lot.

Love your avatar!

But it sure as hell dosn't help on this issue.
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kerver
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:12 pm
lol...it's not that it bothers me, i mean you're right, how could anyone really know. I just wanted to clue you in while we were here on this thread. (i'll remind you if I have to!) I've thought about changing my screen name(not for that pupose) but i havn't looked in to how to do it yet.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 12:23 pm
I understand, Kerver.

The issue of gender in responses that contain personal pronouns has been a problem in several different forums in which I've participated.

I really would like to see it tackled as a problem.

I just started a new thread discussing and asking about it.

Stop by and offer a comment.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 02:51 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
Gelisgesti wrote:
kerver wrote:
Yes, I do believe in life after death.
Excellent, an answer that isn't couched.


Interesting that you should characterize Kerver's statement that way.

Actually -- the statement is couched.

By saying he "believes" there is life after death -- he is actually saying "I do not know, but my guess is that there is life after death."

The truly "uncouched" version would be a simple: "I do not know."

Hey Frank, why do you insist on re-writing peoples words. How should she have written "Yes, I do believe in life after death" so that you would interpret her as saying "Yes, I do believe in life after death"?

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Most people seem to be afraid to make a direct statement.


Many people seem to have trouble recognizing a direct statement.

I am so glad I don't have that problem Smile

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They can't reference the spiritual as anything but physical. They find it so easy to accept the ectoplasmic but exceptionaly difficult to deal wth the implications of the protoplasmic, endoplasmic, cytoplasmic aspects of their nature. To even consider that a presence just as or even more miraculous than their own entity is just too much of a quantum leap...


What an interesting way to say, "They just don't want to guess."

Worked in the old 'guess' theory didn't cha. Tell ya what .... no matter what your beleif, stop and ask yourself 'what do I do on a daily basis to prepare myself for that eventuality'? Like I believe in spiritual continuity and physical death so what actions should I pursue toward that end? Think about it, I'll be back.

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Hope you enjoyed the coffee, Ge'.



Just like Juan Valdez brewed it .......... Wink
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Wed 4 Feb, 2004 03:20 pm
Glad you enjoyed the coffee, Ge'.
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2004 07:08 am
Gelisgesti wrote:
Frank Apisa wrote:
Gelisgesti wrote:
kerver wrote:
Yes, I do believe in life after death.
Excellent, an answer that isn't couched.


Interesting that you should characterize Kerver's statement that way.

Actually -- the statement is couched.

By saying he "believes" there is life after death -- he is actually saying "I do not know, but my guess is that there is life after death."

The truly "uncouched" version would be a simple: "I do not know."

Hey Frank, why do you insist on re-writing peoples words. How should she have written "Yes, I do believe in life after death" so that you would interpret her as saying "Yes, I do believe in life after death"?



Can't come up with an answer to my question eh?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 5 Feb, 2004 07:14 am
CI
Rugged death means dying without hope of reprieve, whether one simply expires during a good night's sleep or gets blown away by Bush/terrorist bombs. Rugged death = no afterlife.
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