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George Bush 2006 State Of The Union Drinking Game

 
 
Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:32 pm
littlek wrote:
I'd play a drinking game, where everytime I heard him say security, terrorism or ...hurt america..., I'd drink a shot of tequila. It'd be fun if I could, but I can't as my health insurance premiums preclude me from buying alcohol.


Laughing
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Anon-Voter
 
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Reply Tue 31 Jan, 2006 11:37 pm
My Poll Selection, "Projectile Vomiting" is also not there!

Anon
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littlek
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 12:15 am
Glad someone got that.....
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 07:33 am
This SOTU was about as interesting as artificial insemination.
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rodeman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:18 am
Joe

About that smirking chimp stuff...............................
Laughing
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:16 pm
Actually, as we all saw, smirking not so much these days... I watched some more of the speech this morning at the gym, George seems to have been smacked with some sense of reality -don't get excited, it may pass- he loved doing the opening minutes where he could drone on about the great adventure in Iraq and get his Republican Rubber Stamp Choir on their feet. ( A rough spot, and it shouldn't have been, was that defense of the no-warrant wiretaps, it fell flat even as the loyal royals rose and pounded their palms. Did you notice the Supremes weren't doing the wave?)

So what or who did we get last night? The new George Bush? The one who wants his tax cuts made permanent but also proposes plans to spend millions and millions (it will be at least that) to train 30,000 advanced placement teachers and billions to research synthetic fuels. ( I guess Dick has decided that Haliburton is going to run out of crude sooner than we have been led to believe and that now the money is in fakefuels. Invest Now.)

He didn't look like he was enjoying himself, (They made him say all that stuff about ethics.) and near the end seemed tired even as the speech raised itself:

'...every great movement of history comes to a point of choosing.'

That's right, George.


Joe(take a nap now)Nation
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:28 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
( A rough spot, and it shouldn't have been, was that defense of the no-warrant wiretaps, it fell flat even as the loyal royals rose and pounded their palms. Did you notice the Supremes weren't doing the wave?)


Would you expect any other sort of reaction from them on that issue, which is likely to come before them soon?
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:28 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
( A rough spot, and it shouldn't have been, was that defense of the no-warrant wiretaps, it fell flat even as the loyal royals rose and pounded their palms. Did you notice the Supremes weren't doing the wave?)
Question Considering each of them has sworn an oath to approach each case absent preconceived prejudice, and they may very well be reviewing this one, they did the only thing they could do; abstain.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:30 pm
Good point, O'Bill. :wink:
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 08:30 pm
Ticomaya wrote:
Joe Nation wrote:
( A rough spot, and it shouldn't have been, was that defense of the no-warrant wiretaps, it fell flat even as the loyal royals rose and pounded their palms. Did you notice the Supremes weren't doing the wave?)


Would you expect any other sort of reaction from them on that issue, which is likely to come before them soon?
Back atcha Tico. :wink:
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realjohnboy
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:10 pm
I am probably one of the few folks who watched and listened to the whole speech. I admit to not being a fan of Mr Bush, his policies or that damn smirk of his. His handlers only permit him to speak to audiiences that have been sceened to be be favorable. I wonder if he is is touch with reality?
His in-your-face pledge to continue unsupervised surveilance drew applause, but I suspect that, as the November elections grow nearer and lawsuits start to file up, even Repubs will try to distance themselves from this issue.
30,000 new teachers? A new energy policy? Mr Bush must submit a budget next week to Congress. It will be intersting to see how he intends to fund any of this.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:33 pm
Doesn't it make real conservatives chew nails when they get the tax cuts they want but this cowboy won't ever cut back on spending? (No vetos yet unless I missed one last week.)

How about it, Tico and Bill, just how deep a deficit do you think George is going to dig in the next 1000 or so days? His 'new' AIDs measure adds an estimated 235 Million per year ad infinitum. Aaren't we supposed to be going to MARS sometime?

When do you think we will have borrowed enough from the Chinese to have them have our nuts in a vise? Week after next? The next new moon? Wednesday after Labor Day?

Joe(not so hopeful)Nation

PS Did anyone hear any commentator refer to the Hopeful Society today? I'm sure the Man from Hope, Arkansas has a trademark infringement case lawsuit at his lawyers right now.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:35 pm
Joe there are plenty of guys right there in your home town paying the big bucks to have an attractive Chinese get their nuts in a vice...
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:39 pm
vice vise vixen vise vice

sounds like German
say it twice

g'night

Joe
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 09:40 pm
88% against.
At least hes buying some DEM ideas like biofuels.
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 10:07 pm
Joe Nation wrote:
Doesn't it make real conservatives chew nails when they get the tax cuts they want but this cowboy won't ever cut back on spending? (No vetos yet unless I missed one last week.)
Being fiercely independent, I don't feel comfortable answering on behalf of "real conservatives", so I'll just answer for me; not especially comfortable.

Joe Nation wrote:
How about it, Tico and Bill, just how deep a deficit do you think George is going to dig in the next 1000 or so days? His 'new' AIDs measure adds an estimated 235 Million per year ad infinitum. Aaren't we supposed to be going to MARS sometime?
Pretty damn deep. Insofar as a 235 Million dollar AIDs measure is concerned, I'll gladly pay my share. Same goes for liberating oppressed people throughout the world, wherever he may find them and for whatever excuses he offers publicly. I'll continue to consider tax dollars spent keeping the US's war machine the finest ever conceived of money well spent. I seriously doubt we'll be heading to Mars anytime soon.

Joe Nation wrote:
When do you think we will have borrowed enough from the Chinese to have them have our nuts in a vise? Week after next? The next new moon? Wednesday after Labor Day?
NeverÂ… or at least not in my foreseeable lifetime. China will likely join us in the MAD club (Mutually Assured Destruction) soon, if they haven't already, but it is unlikely that any technology in the foreseeable future will render our membership impotent. China may or may not lend us money at their discretion, but I don't see any enforceable means of collection should we fall into default. I believe they recognize this presumably obvious precondition, and consider the risk/reward ratio to doing business with us to be in their best interest anyway.

I was among the most boisterous supporters of Ross Perot for the very reasons you're articulating with your questions, but do not believe the sky is falling. We're going to be just fine.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 10:33 pm
Dear Friends,

As most of you have probably heard, I was arrested before the State of the Union Address tonight.

I am speechless with fury at what happened and with grief over what we have lost in our country.

There have been lies from the police and distortions by the press. (Shocker) So this is what really happened:

This afternoon at the People's State of the Union Address in DC where I was joined by Congresspersons Lynn Woolsey and John Conyers, Ann Wright, Malik Rahim and John Cavanagh. Lynn brought me a ticket to the State of the Union Address. At that time, I was wearing the shirt that said: 2,245 Dead. How many more?

After the PSOTU press conference, I was having second thoughts about going to the SOTU at the Capitol. I didn't feel comfortable going. I knew George Bush would say things that would hurt me and anger me and I knew that I couldn't disrupt the address because Lynn had given me the ticket and I didn't want to be disruptive out of respect for her. I, in fact, had given the ticket to John Bruhns who is in Iraq Veterans Against the War. However, Lynn's office had already called the media and everyone knew I was going to be there so I sucked it up and went.

I got the ticket back from John, and I met one of Congresswoman Barbara Lee's staffers in the Longworth Congressional Office building and we went to the Capitol via the underground tunnel. I went through security once, then had to use the rest room and went through security again.

My ticket was in the 5th gallery, front row, fourth seat in. The person who in a few minutes was to arrest me, helped me to my seat.

I had just sat down and I was warm from climbing 3 flights of stairs back up from the bathroom so I unzipped my jacket. I turned to the right to take my left arm out, when the same officer saw my shirt and yelled, "Protester." He then ran over to me, hauled me out of my seat and roughly (with my hands behind my back) shoved me up the stairs. I said something like, "I'm going, do you have to be so rough?" By the way, his name is Mike Weight.

The officer ran with me to the elevators yelling at everyone to move out of the way. When we got to the elevators, he cuffed me and took me outside to await a squad car. On the way out, someone behind me said, "That's Cindy Sheehan." At which point the officer who arrested me said, "Take these steps slowly." I said, "You didn't care about being careful when you were dragging me up the other steps." He said, "That's because you were protesting." Wow, I get hauled out of the People's House because I was, "Protesting."

I was never told that I couldn't wear that shirt into the Congress. I was never asked to take it off or zip my jacket back up. If I had been asked to do any of those things...I would have, and written about the suppression of my freedom of speech later. I was immediately, and roughly (I have the bruises and muscle spasms to prove it) hauled off and arrested for "unlawful conduct."

After I had my personal items inventoried and my fingers printed, a nice Sgt. came in and looked at my shirt and said, "2,245, huh? I just got back from there."

I told him that my son died there. That's when the enormity of my loss hit me. I have lost my son. I have lost my First Amendment rights. I have lost the country that I love. Where did America go? I started crying in pain.

What did Casey die for? What did the 2,244 other brave young Americans die for? What are tens of thousands of them over there in harm's way for still? For this? I can't even wear a shirt that has the number of troops on it that George Bush and his arrogant and ignorant policies are responsible for killing.

I wore the shirt to make a statement. The press knew I was going to be there and I thought every once in awhile they would show me and I would have the shirt on. I did not wear it to be disruptive, or I would have unzipped my jacket during George's speech. If I had any idea what happens to people who wear shirts that make the neocons uncomfortable...that I would be arrested...maybe I would have, but I didn't.

There have already been many wild stories out there.

I have some lawyers looking into filing a First Amendment lawsuit against the government for what happened tonight. I will file it. It is time to take our freedoms and our country back.

I don't want to live in a country that prohibits any person, whether he/she has paid the ultimate price for that country, from wearing, saying, writing, or telephoning any negative statements about the government. That's why I am going to take my freedoms and liberties back. That's why I am not going to let Bushco take anything else away from me...or you.

I am so appreciative of the couple of hundred protesters who came to the jail while I was locked up to show their support....we have so much potential for good...there is so much good in so many people.

Four hours and 2 jails after I was arrested, I was let out. Again, I am so upset and sore it is hard to think straight.

Keep up the struggle...I promise you I will too.

Love and peace soon,
Cindy
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OCCOM BILL
 
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Reply Wed 1 Feb, 2006 11:07 pm
Empathy worthy protester gets arrested for illegally protesting. So? Perhaps next time she'll choose a more appropriate setting.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2006 04:54 am
O'Bill writes:
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Same goes for liberating oppressed people throughout the world, wherever he may find them and for whatever excuses he offers publicly. I'll continue to consider tax dollars spent keeping the US's war machine the finest ever conceived of money well spent.


Yeah, liberating oppressed people...better living through bullets... how's that going? As soon as we look away, Afghanistan will return to fundamentalist Islam, here's Tom with an interesting take on BOTH oil independence and liberating oppressed people.

Addicted to Oil
By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN
So far the democracy wave the Bush team has helped to unleash in the Arab-Muslim world since 9/11 has brought to power hard-line Islamic fundamentalists in Iraq, Palestine and Iran, and paved the way for a record showing by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. If we keep this up, in a few years Muslim clerics will be in power from Morocco to the border of India. God bless America.

But is this all America's doing? Not really. It's actually the product of 50 years of petrolism ?- or petroleum-based politics ?- in the Arab-Muslim world. The Bush team's fault was believing that it could change that ?- that it could break the Middle East's addiction to authoritarianism without also breaking America's addiction to oil. That's the illusion here. In the Arab world, oil and authoritarianism are inextricably linked.

How so? Let's start with Iron Rule No. 1 of Arab-Muslim political life today: You cannot go from Saddam to Jefferson without going through Khomeini ?- without going through a phase of mosque-led politics.

Why? Because once you sweep away the dictator or king at the top of any Middle East state, you go into free fall until you hit the mosque ?- as the U.S. discovered in Iraq. There is nothing between the ruling palace and the mosque. The secular autocratic regimes, like those in Egypt, Libya, Syria and Iraq, never allowed anything to grow under their feet. They never allowed the emergence of any truly independent judiciary, media, progressive secular parties or civil society groups ?- from women's organizations to trade associations.

The mosque became an alternative power center because it was the only place the government's iron fist could not fully penetrate. As such, it became a place where people were able to associate freely, incubate local leaders and generate a shared opposition ideology.

That is why the minute any of these Arab countries hold free and fair elections, the Islamists burst ahead. In Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood won 20 percent of the seats; Hamas went from nowhere to a governing majority. In both societies the ruling secular parties ?- the N.D.P. in the case of Egypt and Fatah in the case of Palestine ?- were spurned as corrupt appendages of the authoritarian state, which they were.

Why are there not more independent, secular, progressive opposition parties running in these places? Because the Arab leaders won't allow them to sprout. They prefer that the only choice their people have is between the state parties and religious extremists, so as to always make the authoritarian state look indispensable. When Ayman Nour, a liberal independent in Egypt, ran against President Hosni Mubarak, he was thrown in prison as soon as the election was over. Thanks for playing "Democracy" ?- now go to jail.

It is not this way everywhere. In East Asia, when the military regimes in countries like Taiwan and South Korea broke up, these countries quickly moved toward civilian democracies. Why? Because they had vibrant free markets, with independent economic centers of power, and no oil. Whoever ruled had to nurture a society that would empower its men and women to get educated and start companies to compete globally, because that was the only way they could thrive.

In the Arab-Muslim world, however, the mullah dictators in Iran and the secular dictators elsewhere have been able to sustain themselves in power much longer, without ever empowering their people, without ever allowing progressive parties to emerge, because they had oil or its equivalent ?- massive foreign aid.

Hence Iron Rule No. 2: Removing authoritarian leaders in the Arab-Muslim world, either by revolution, invasion or election, is necessary for the emergence of stable democracies there ?- but it is not sufficient. The only way the new leaders will allow for real political parties, institutions, free press, competitive free markets and proper education ?- a civil society ?- is if we also bring down the price of oil and make internal reform the only way for these societies to sustain themselves. People change when they have to, not when we tell them to.

If you just remove the dictators, and don't also bring down the price of oil, you end up with Iran ?- with mullah dictators replacing military dictators and using the same oil wealth to keep their people quiet and themselves in power. Only when oil is back down to $20 a barrel will the transition from Saddam to Jefferson not get stuck in "Khomeini Land."

In the Middle East, oil and democracy do not mix. It's not an accident that the Arab world's first and only true democracy ?- Lebanon ?- never had a drop of oil.

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That's a completely different bridge to the future than this administration has in mind. Meanwhile, remember every dollar we owe the Chinese is one less dollar's worth of influence over them. Think Nuclear Proliferation, weapons systems sales to people we don't particularly believe ought to be buying them and a greater ability to tell us to shove it when we attempt to influence their trade policy, monetary policy and foreign relations. Dollars are power. Right now we are pouring them into the Chinese economy at incredible rates and they are buying as much of our deficit induced bonds as they can.

Meanwhile, the people at the top of the American food chain, the people who have benefited most from this President, don't need the American economy to be strong in order to keep their money and make more, they need the world economy to be strong. They get the best of both worlds from George, permanent tax cuts and a world in which to employ, at rockbottom wages, millions, and millions more to sell to. All without needing to create a single job in Michigan, Ohio or Kansas.

Face the facts. This country has been sold a bill of goods by this bunch of "We're for values and strong morals" gangsters. Neo-con contains the right second syllable. Yeah, liberating oppressed people is something I'd buy too, but every once in awhile you ought to look in the bag to see what you actually bought.

Joe(Hey, what the ..?)Nation
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nimh
 
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Reply Thu 2 Feb, 2006 07:14 am
OCCOM BILL wrote:
Joe Nation wrote:
How about it, Tico and Bill, just how deep a deficit do you think George is going to dig in the next 1000 or so days? [..]

Pretty damn deep. Insofar as a 235 Million dollar AIDs measure is concerned, I'll gladly pay my share. Same goes for liberating oppressed people throughout the world, wherever he may find them and for whatever excuses he offers publicly. I'll continue to consider tax dollars spent keeping the US's war machine the finest ever conceived of money well spent.

OK, so you're worried about the deficit that's going to be pretty damn deep, yet consider the government spending dollars that are now proposed or already being spent good value for money. Does that mean you're in favour of raising taxes? How else would you raise the money for that spending, if you dont want an even deeper deficit?
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