neologist wrote:Forgive me for ridiculing you, ali. It's just that you have such a distorted understanding of the bible, it's almost comical.
For the record, Jesus had a prehuman existence as God's firstborn and lowered himself to live as a man. There are many reasons for this humbling of himself which I would be happy to explain.
But, somehow I feel you have an agenda that does not include learning.
I HAVE AN AGENDA THAT INCLUDES COMMON SENSE, I USE MY KNOWLEDGE THAT GOD GAVE ME. IF JESUS WAS THE CREATOR THEN HOWCOME I CAN CHALLENGE HIM AND PROVE THAT HE WASNT? COMMON HOW STUPID DOES ONE HAVE TO BE NOT TO REALIZE THIS. HAVE YOU (CHRISTIAN BELIEVER) EVER CONSIDERED LOOKING AT IT FROM ANOTHER ANGLE? HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDRED THINKING AND SAYING TO URSELF AND ASKING WHAT IF? WHAT IF IM WRONG? WHY DON'T YOU USE SCIENCE, GEOLOGY AND ARCHEOLOGY TO SEEK THE TRUTH? IS IT BECAUSE ONCE YOU DO, THEN THE BIBLE BECOMES DOUBTFUL?
I WILL NEVER TILL THE DAY I DIE, EVEN IF JESUS HIMSELF APEARED TO ME AND SAID IN MY FACE THAT HE IS GOD OR AND HIS SON, BELIEVE THAT, BECAUSE ILL CHALLENGE JESUS AND PROVE HIM WRONG USING MY KNOWLEDGE, AND ILL EVEN PROVE HIM WRONG IN THE SPIRITUAL ASPACT OF SEEING THINGS. ILL SAY TO JESUS NO, GOD IS GREATOR THAN YOU, AND ANYTHING THAT WAS IS AND EVER WILL BE. ILL SAY TO JESUS THAT HE CANNOT WILL A THING WITHOUT THE WILL OF GOD. IF JESUS IS OUR CREATOR, AND IF NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM, THEN WHY DID HE NOT SHOW HIMSELF TO US AS A SPIRIT? AND IF OUR EYES ON EARTH CANNOT SEE HIS TRUE FORM, THEN WHY DID HE NOT MAKE IT HAPPEN? IF HE IS GOD THEN SURELY HE CAN SAY "BE" AND IT WILL BE! JESUS WAS ONLY A PROPHET, THERE WERE MANY BEFORE HIM THAT DIED, AND AFTER HIM CAME MOHAMMAD, JUST LIKE "VEDA" WAS A PROPHET OF INDIA, AND LOOK AT HINDUISM NOW, THEY CORRUPTED THEIR BEAUTIFUL RELIGION BY JOINING PARTNERS TO GOD ALMIGHTY. BUHDA WAS A PROPHET OF CHINA, BUT LOOK AT HOW HES BEING PORTRAYED NOW? THEYRE WORSHIPING HIM, AND SO WAS JESUS, AND LOOK AT WHAT PPL ARE DOING, HISTORY SURELY HAS REPEATED ITSELF. LOOK BACK IN HISTORY AND LEARN, WHY DO YOU KEEP MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES OVER AND OVER? TRUTH STANDS OUT CLEAR FROM ERROR, ONCE YOU ACTUALLY THINK AND USE UR BRAIN THEN YOU WILL SEE THE TRUTH. IF JESUS IS GOD, THEN WHY DID HE ONLY APEAR IN ISRAEL AS A WHITE MAN? IS HE TRYING TO SAY THE WHITE RACE IS THE GREATEST? WHY DID HE NOT APPEAR IN AFRICA AS A BLACK MAN, OR IN CHINA AS A CHINESE? IS THE GOD OF THE BIBLE, AND YES I SAY "GOD OF THE BIBLE" FOR I DONT BELIEVE GOD OF THE BIBLE IS THE TRUE GOD, IS THE GOD OF THE BIBLE WHITE THEN? AND LIKE I SAID, NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR GOD SO THEN WHY DID HE NOT SHOW HIMSELF TO US AS A SPIRIT? AGAIN I SAY TO YOU FOOLISH ONES, JESUS SHITS, HE PICKS HIS NOSE, HE EATS, HES JUST LIKE ME AND YOU, IT WAS BY GOD'S WILL THAT HE RAISED THE DEAD ETC... HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR GOD NOBODY WOULD HAVE GAVE A **** ABOUT JESUS AND WE WOULDVE NEVER KNOWN THIS NAME TODAY. HIS BIRTH WAS A MIRACLE BY GOD, AND SINCE HE NEVER HAD A FATHER HE LOOKED UP TO GOD AS A FATHER, AND CALLED HIM FATHER, BUT NOT IN THE "LITERAL" AND OR "BIOLOGICAL" SENSE. GOD LOVES ME AS MUCH AS HE DOES JESUS, YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THAT GOD HAS A SON, AND IS FAVORING HIS SON OVER YOU? NO THAT'S YOU, YOURE HUMAN IM HUMAN, THATS WHY WE THINK GOD IS LIKE THAT. WHY DONT YOU THINK BEYOND THAT AND SEEK THE TRUTH? MY 7 YEAR OLD COUSIN TOUGHT ME THE WAY, MY 7 YEAR OLD COUSIN TAUGHT ME THE TRUE CONCEPT OF GOD, SIMPLY BY ASKING ME, "ALI IF JESUS WAS GOD THEN WHY DID HE NEED TO EAT?" AGAIN THAT 7 YEAR OLD'S CONCEPT OF GOD IS HIGHER THAN THAT OF A 40 YEAR OLD IGNORANT MAN THAT IDOL WORSHIPS JESUS AS GOD OR HIS SON.