Momma Angel wrote:So, unless I vote yes, I am wrong?
I have to set aside my right to vote my conscience in order to be right? I have to overlook my right for someone elses'?
If my conscience dictated that I should actively deny people their rights, I'd ask myself why I felt that way.
I'd have you improve your principles.
I'd consider a revamping of your approach to the subject, an improvement. I think your method of thinking about this subject is a hand me down from cold hearted people. I knew a lot of people like them.
Try to see Christ in this situation.
MA-- God says gluttony and gossip are wrong, too. But you and I and millions of other people still got married. Why single them out?? I wish you'd answer that.
Lash,
Christ would not okay same sex marriage. If homosexuality is an Abomination Unto the Lord why would He okay same sex marriage?
Lady Lash,
You surely can do much better than the gluttony thing. You cannot equate homosexuality to gluttony.
Why isn't homosexuality one of the Ten Commandments if it's the only one that we hold aside for special derision?
Momma Angel wrote:Lash,
Christ would not okay same sex marriage. If homosexuality is an Abomination Unto the Lord why would He okay same sex marriage?
Lady Lash,
You surely can do much better than the gluttony thing. You cannot equate homosexuality to gluttony.
You're right, momma, gluttony is a learned behavior.
Thank me? What I am implying is that gluttony can be dealt with - changed - homosexuality cannot. Which, to my mind, makes the discrimination even more cruel.
LOL!!
James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
(Doesn't this mean you are as guilty as a homosexual?)
The laugh was re littlek's comment.
MA-- I think you have mostly good intentions, I just think you are wrong about this.
Lash,
I know you think I am wrong about this. That's fine. I frankly was not trying to prove anyone being wrong or right.
I just find it so ironic that I adjust my way of thinking (been told I'm hard headed, closed minded, etc.) and when I become more open-minded, etc., it ain't good enough.
And I get the feeling it won't be good enough until I completely change my view on this and just go out and vote yes on this issue. And, that IMO, comes awful dang close to wanting to restrict how or why I would vote either for or against something or someone, in the respect that I am flat out told I am wrong for exercising my right the way I see fit to exercise it.
I offered a compromise and was told no, you are still wrong. Go figure.
Momma-- You're incorrect about the abominations. Does this change your view?
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Sexual sins of any kind are considered "abominations" to the Lord. See Leviticus 18: 18 - 30, paying particular attention to verses 27 - 30, which refer to "all these abominations" -- after various kinds of sexual activities apart from marriage have been mentioned. A similar list is repeated in Leviticus 20, concluding that God's people ought not to do these things "after the manner of the nations which I cast out before you." We find that the levitical laws also forbade remarriages of divorced couples, calling such an act an "abomination." Deuteronomy 24: 1 - 4. When we consider that Christ amplified these laws to include the lustful thought, who is without sin to cast the first stone?
Dishonest business practices are named as an "abomination" in Deuteronomy 25: 13 - 16, Proverbs 11: 1 and Proverbs 20: 10. It seems that scrupulously honest business practices are required of any professing to be the Lord's people. Do our practices pass the careful scrutiny of the Omniscient One?
Oppressive treatment of others and a haughty attitude are considered as "abomination" in Proverbs 3: 31 - 32, and a "froward heart" is again mentioned in Proverbs 11:20. I wonder if some of the actions of conservative Christians towards gay people might not fall into these categories of "abominations."
A list of six "abominations" are also given in Proverbs 6: 16 - 19:
These six things doth the LORD hate:
yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
A proud look, a lying tongue,
and hands that shed innocent blood,
An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations,
feet that be swift in running to mischief,
A false witness that speaketh lies,
and he that soweth discord among brethren.
Who can claim innocence from all these "abominations"?
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Will you fight against divorce and remarriage as heartily as you do gay people marrying?
Liars?? I'm sure you've lied. Will you give up your right to marry?
This sounds like an attack. It's just a desperate attempt to get you to admit to yourself what your motives are. You'll feel better when you do.