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Can You Make Me See Red?

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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:50 pm
Someone prove to me that what I see as being red is the exact color seen by anyone else.

This is red. Everyone says yes it is because we were all taught that it was so. But, do you see what I see?

It can be tested! Test away.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:51 pm
Does anybody here know where the exit door is? Laughing
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:53 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Setanta,

Why are you putting meaning to something that was not there? I am not equating the inability to see God with disabilities. Oh brother! Do you ever look for the positive in anything? Rolling Eyes


You can take comfort in the fact that not one other person lowered the conversation to this level.
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aktorist
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:56 pm
Well then, you fail.
Your "evidence" isn't good enough.
Your "experience" does not affirm any existance for God for you or anyone.
Whereas there is a manifestation for light, there is none for God.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:56 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Setanta,

Why are you putting meaning to something that was not there? I am not equating the inability to see God with disabilities. Oh brother! Do you ever look for the positive in anything? Rolling Eyes


You can take comfort in the fact that not one other person lowered the conversation to this level.

True dat! As Hephzibah would say!
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:56 pm
Bartikus wrote:
Someone prove to me that what I see as being red is the exact color seen by anyone else.

This is red. Everyone says yes it is because we were all taught that it was so. But, do you see what I see?

It can be tested! Test away.


You may want to go back and read more than the last page.
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fresco
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:56 pm
JLN,

Neural... yes...but a secondary question concerns the implications, if such "experiences" can be "artificially" evoked. (see the link above)
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:58 pm
Somebody puh-leeeeeeeeeeeze! Where is the exit!http://www.smileys.ws/smls/yahoo/00000017.gif
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:58 pm
You lowered the conversation to that level by choosing the attempted metaphor . . . it was your deicision to liken those who do not agree with your faith as having a lacuna equivalent to a disability . . . so, Intrepid's typically snotty snipe is not true at all . . .
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aktorist
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:59 pm
The main thing was that Angel was using her earlier experience as "evidence" as stated earlier. It's not.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:59 pm
I love ya, ya big puppy dog :-)
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:00 pm
Setanta wrote:
You lowered the conversation to that level by choosing the attempted metaphor . . . it was your deicision to liken those who do not agree with your faith as having a lacuna equivalent to a disability . . . so, Intrepid's typically snotty snipe is not true at all . . .


Guess you missed my post where I said that is not what I meant in any way, huh? No wait, or was it because that's what you think I mean and won't take my word for it? Rolling Eyes
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:01 pm
aktorist wrote:
I have assembled three sets. Anyone could be smart enough to understand the intrinstic differences between them.

Set 1:
Color
Time
Position
Cartesian n-Space
Numbers
Direction
Truth
Spin
Mass
Sensation

Set 2:
Sound Wave
Atoms
Jupiter
France
Marianas trench
Andromeda Galaxy
Photons
Core of the Sun
Ozone layer
Air

Set 3:
Psychokinesis
Extra Terrestrials
Santa Claus
God
Loch Ness Monster
Tooth Fairy
UFOs
Ghosts


Your throwing me on the unidentified flying objects. You do realize that UFO's are not neccesarily.......spacecraft right? Kinda like there are unidentified swimming lifeforms in the ocean.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:02 pm
Do some of you ever turn your brains down to idle or anything? How many times do I have to state that I was not trying to provide evidence of God or prove that God exists?

You are making this so much more complicated that it was intended to be.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:04 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Guess you missed my post where I said that is not what I meant in any way, huh? No wait, or was it because that's what you think I mean and won't take my word for it?


That is absolutely correct--you may not have intentionally sought to liken the refusal of others to accept your belief set to a disability, but that is exactly how you see it and therefore you chose the metaphor.

You can poke someone in the eye, and then say you didn't mean it . . . but it won't "unpoke" them . . .
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:05 pm
I believe in all kinds of stuff that is yet unidentified.
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JLNobody
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:05 pm
Darn it, guys, I'm starting to see red right now.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:08 pm
JLNobody wrote:
Darn it, guys, I'm starting to see red right now.


Your only seeing red because someone told you it was red and you accepted it as being so. Never did we say....prove it's red! lol
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fresco
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:10 pm
Bartikus speak with forked ear !
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 02:12 pm
Only the intelligent ones ask for proof.
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