I cannot imagine why you call this a hornet's nest--because people didn't run in to agree with you? You posed a conundrum, and people responded. They responded in a civil manner, although they did not necessarily agree with you. At this point, i doubt that you'll be able to work up much interest, given your reaction to what people have already posted.
I simply proposed a list of issues that could give us a hint about left and right opinions and asked for suggestions, at which time everybody told me I was off base. You never made any more suggestions of additional issues. You never pointed out any that should not be on there. You simply say I posed a conundrum. I don't see how we can honestly discuss the issues without first identifying the issues. I identified some, and what do I get, criticism for even suggesting them. This has to be one of the most bizarre discussions I've ever been in.
One of the frustrations on a forum like this is the difficulty of getting people to honestly say what they believe. I think this is another example of that. I tire of moving targets to be honest. I am simply trying to see if anyone is interested in addressing an issue, such as gun control, and if you don't like that one, pick immigration or something else, and surely we could be honest enough to admit which position on those issues the left takes vs. the right. Criticizing a position is easy. I would like to see someone take a position, admit to it, and offer some valid reasons why they do so. I'm not seeing much of that so far.
Lets take Gun Control for instance. The left is for more, the right is for gun rights and minimal control. I suppose you all will pick me apart on that. Some of this should be simple and easily outlined. This does not imply which side is the correct reasoning. If the left is convinced that more control of gun ownership is the correct policy, why jump on me for simply making the obvious observation between left and right for each issue?
I should qualify my comments here are more directed toward Setanta and Mr. Hinteler. Please correct me but I get the impression you both are fairly socialistic at least, plus you don't think the Americans see the light very well yet, and really are not very sympathetic to even discussing this issue. I am hoping there will be somebody interested in at least looking at the debate as valid.