Finn dAbuzz wrote:
How about Van Jones?
Van Jones isn't a Marxist in any way.
Just because someone doesn't describe themselves as a "Marxist" doesn't mean the label won't stick.
Well, I'm sure you know I agree with you on that one; because you would never label yourself
as a 'weeping asshole of a person,' yet the label seems to stick pretty well.
Tell us Cyclo that you have never labeled anyone a "neo-con" or "fascist" who doesn't use these terms to self describe.
Fascist is a description of behavior; at least, I use it to describe those of any political stripe who seek to dominate and control as a means of enacting policy. Marxist is a description of beliefs. Okie isn't describing people who have done things
which could be labeled in any way Marxist; just people who have left-leaning politics.
As for Jones, I think you would be hard-pressed to present any actions he has taken which indicate that he is a marxist in any fashion.
I guess you're just calling it like it is while Okie is "Red baiting."
BTW, what do you mean by that term?
I would think that you can't bait a Red who isn't one, any more than you can bait a bear that is actually a cow.
Red-baiting is the act of accusing, denouncing, attacking or persecuting an individual or group as communist, socialist, or anarchist, or sympathic toward communism, socialism, or anarchism. The word "red" in "red-baiting" is derived from the red flag signifying radical left-wing politics. The term "red-baiting" dates to at least 1928. In United States history, red-baiting is most often associated with McCarthyism, which had its origins in the two historic Red Scare periods of the 1920s (First Red Scare) and 1950s (Second Red Scare).
It doesn't matter whether the person actually did anything pernicious or bad for America in any way; the entire point of red-baiting is to tar people by association or reputation, to make them politically untenable. It is 100% what that piece of **** McCarthy did back in the 50's, and it is what Okie and other far-right wingers do today - with less success, of course, because of all that crying wolf which has been done.
I'm surprised that you calmed down from your frothing about Bolton's decision re: SB1070 in AZ, to write an almost conversational post. I was sure there'd be something in there about poor people taking your money.