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67 times around - and once there was a world's fair

 
 
pwayfarer
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 09:40 am
It's coming,Beth - but not right this minute.
Yeah, Danon - I remember "Future Shock". Maybe it hasto be up dated.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 11:30 am
Biber, Buxtehude and Telemann - three of my favourite German baroque composers. The pre-concert lecture was great. Quite a bit about the viola damore, which is a rare instrument featured in last night's concert. One of the instruments had been owned by Thomas Mann. The lecturer included photos of the house that the Buddenbrooks was set in, in his program.

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danon5
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 01:30 pm
I checked the leaderboard just now and we are at 50.501 acres. The last 1/2 acre has been clicked for in the past 15 days. That's really great clicking Wildclickers....... During the past 21 days we have gained an average of 4 clicks per day over our team clicks from last month. Yea!!!

Time, apparently, following the invention of the pendulum clock - people set their time pieces by looking at a centrally located clock in their village. In the absense of that - each person would set their clock by the passage of the sun overhead at Noon - for instance. The rest of the days time was positioned around that. So, you can easily see that each different village had a different time. This had little effect on daily life until the late 1800's when steam locomotives began to race across the nation - there were enough train wrecks to affect the income of the RR moguls. They then conceived the idea of standardizing time in zones - Afterward, there were not as many train wrecks. Daylight Saving Time came afterward during - I forget, but, think it was WWI so that workers could manufacture more guns and equipment for the war.

That's a quick and dirty thumbnail on time.

Before clocks, people went about without thinking of time - it was either morning, afternoon or daylight or dark. grin Meetings were haphazard. Farmers were all well aware of the solstices to begin planting or to harvest - people have known about that for thousands of years.
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ul
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 01:31 pm
It is freezing here. The temperatures dropped down 12 degrees in 10 hours, now we have minus 11 C. Greetings from Siberia- they say. Nice though- a starry night.

Buxtehude- also a nice little town. The story of the Hare and the Hedgehog (Grimm's fairy tales).

Danon,
have you read Jules Vernes' book about Paris?
"Paris in the 20th Century"-
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 02:57 pm
Telemann I know, but not the other two. Not by their names, anyway.

I heard today that Ben Franklin came up with daylight savings time.

Danon,

Are you suggesting that standardized time zones began here, even though the referant is Greenwich Mean?
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sumac
 
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Reply Sun 22 Jan, 2006 02:58 pm
Hi Ul,
Stay warm. We have all heard that Russia and Moscow have been particularly hit hard by extreme cold. I guess that weather is creeping southwest to you, now?
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 07:25 am
Good morning all, going to click now.

ehBeth, what do you hear from Aa? It has been a long time. Why doesn't someone just move the computer to her?
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 08:25 am
Oceans in Peril

Editorial from today's Washington Post:

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Oceans in Peril


Monday, January 23, 2006; Page A14

THE BUSH administration remains in denial about climate change and sometimes treats environmental protection as an inconvenience. Yet there was reason to hope, when the U.S. Commission on Ocean Policy issued its report more than a year ago, that President Bush would seize the issue of the dire threat to this country's coastal waters. The commission was the second major task force in recent years to detail the rapidly deteriorating ecology of America's oceans. All serious looks at the issue have reached similar conclusions: that current human use of oceans is unsustainable and that without dramatic changes in the ways the waters are exploited and enjoyed, the seas will die out. The magnitude of the crisis offers an opportunity for the president to lead on a preeminent environmental issue.

So far, it is an opportunity Mr. Bush has largely passed up. To be sure, there have been some constructive changes. Senate Commerce Committee Chairman Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) is pushing legislation to improve fisheries management. Regional fisheries managers have acted to protect deep sea corals. And, explains James L. Connaughton, chairman of the White House Council on Environmental Policy, the president has moved to improve coordination on ocean-related policy by the many agencies of government that have jurisdiction over aspects of the problem, a key commission concern. The administration is developing a long-term research plan and is planning to protect a large area around some Hawaiian islands as a marine sanctuary. All of this is promising -- though a big test will come when the administration has to propose funding for oceans research in its coming budget.

Still, there is little sense of urgency about a problem the oceans commission described in stark terms: Americans, the report warns, are "starting to love our oceans to death." If that is to be averted, "reform needs to start now, while it is still possible to reverse distressing declines." Mr. Connaughton says Mr. Bush is deeply committed to the problem. Yet the president himself does not talk about it.

Tackling this meaningfully is going to require regulatory initiatives across a range of areas: pollution, runoff, development, environmentally harmful farming practices and others, requiring substantial sums. None of this is possible without sustained and vocal presidential leadership. Ecosystems are at a tipping point, verging on a collapse from which they won't recover. The stakes are as immense as the oceans, which will not wait for the White House to gear up to save them.
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 08:29 am
This is a must read. It is from Sunday's NYTimes' Magazine Section, and is the featured article, so it is long. But well worth it:

Title: The Animal Self
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/22/magazine/22animal.html?ei=5070&en=6052b7d8a3edf19b&ex=1138683600&pagewanted=print

Excerpt:

"Scientists are not typically disposed to wielding a word like "personality" when talking about animals. Doing so borders on the scientific heresy of anthropomorphism. And yet for a growing number of researchers from a broad range of disciplines - psychology, evolutionary biology and ecology, animal behavior and welfare - it is becoming increasingly difficult to avoid that term when trying to describe the variety of behaviors that they are now observing in an equally broad and expanding array of creatures, everything from nonhuman primates to hyenas and numerous species of birds to water striders and stickleback fish and, of course, giant Pacific octopuses."
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 08:31 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/23/politics/23environment.html?th&emc=th

January 23, 2006

"United States Ranks 28th on Environment, a New Study Says

By FELICITY BARRINGER

WASHINGTON, Jan. 22 - A pilot nation-by-nation study of environmental performance shows that just six nations - led by New Zealand, followed by five from Northern Europe - have achieved 85 percent or better success in meeting a set of critical environmental goals ranging from clean drinking water and low ozone levels to sustainable fisheries and low greenhouse gas emissions.

The study, jointly produced by Yale and Columbia Universities, ranked the United States 28th over all, behind most of Western Europe, Japan, Taiwan, Malaysia, Costa Rica and Chile, but ahead of Russia and South Korea. "
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Stradee
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:00 pm
sumac, thanks for the interesting articles!

Working today, but will be sure and read all the links when I return home this evening.

ehBeth, what a lovely concert!


Have a great day, wildclickers!
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sumac
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 01:51 pm
I am posting the following paragraphs to try to entice others to read what is a long article. "The Animal Sense", the link to which is above in a previous post today.

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It's typically the males of a given species that seem to figure most prominently in the stupid-behavior department - the militant, mayhem-causing water striders and sticklebacks, for example, or fierce male Western bluebirds, who spend so much time defending nests or courting females that they completely neglect their own offspring. But perhaps the most glaring instance of dumb-animal doings is to be found in the female North American fishing spider. Studies have shown that a good number of female fishing spiders are from a very early age highly driven and effective hunters. It is a trait that serves them well most of their lives, particularly in lean times, but it wholly backfires during mating season, when these females can't keep themselves from eating prospective suitors.

"Now why would anybody, why would any organism do that?" asked Sih. "If you look at these female spiders just in the context of mating behavior, you would conclude that they're doing something mighty stupid here. But their behavioral type is very good for them for much of their life growing up in a highly competitive world where food is often scarce. They're so geared up, though, that when mating season comes around, they really mess up. And experiments have shown that even if they're given a reasonable amount of food, they'll still behave this way."


AND

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For Sih, the answer seems to be that our personality is a manifestation of a complex interplay between genetic inheritance and environment and early-life experience. Bold people, for example, are both naturally disposed to boldness and, further, choose to be bold, becoming ever better at it, building from an early age a mountain of abilities and tendencies that become a personality. It might happen, as well, that an inherently shy person is induced by an early-life experience to venture away from his or her natural disposition and cultivate a bold personality. But whether a person ends up building and climbing a shy or a bold mountain, it may become increasingly difficult to come back down and build another one.


AND LASTLY

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Alison Bell has done related experiments with sticklebacks. It has long been clear to researchers that fish that have lived for many generations in the proximity of dangerous predators are less bold and less aggressive than animals that have lived relatively risk-free. What Bell discovered is that those cautious tendencies outlast the presence of risk, even by a generation. When she moved sticklebacks who had always lived in a high-risk environment into a low-risk environment, she found that not only did they retain their cautious tendencies, but so did their offspring. Even fish raised from birth in a low-risk environment behave more fearfully if raised by a particularly vigilant father from a high-risk background.



Now, if those quotes don't whet your appetite sufficiently to read the entire article, then you are without hope.
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danon5
 
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Reply Mon 23 Jan, 2006 07:40 pm
sumac, you are right. Very good article and IMHO true to it's source. The same may probably be said with reference to the human animal. Males out doing daring stuff and the females talking around the campfires. Hmmm, these days that may be changing - the roles may be slowly turning.

late clicks but clicks - - -
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Stradee
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 01:12 am
sumac, I find the fact amazing that science is just now beginning a more thorough examination of non-human animal behaviour, species that certainly display indivuality and personalities not that far removed from human animals - without dissecting the poor animals or using phychological torture as a means for 'understanding' humans'.

" What once seemed the hopelessly subjective pursuit of understanding human behavior and personality is now increasingly being tied down to and girded by the objective moorings of our own and other animals' biology. The very names of newly emergent fields like biological psychiatry, molecular psychiatry and, of course, animal personality reflect this trend. It is not, as Capitanio points out, a reductionistic concept but more of a holistic one, one that allows for an unprecedentedly subtle reading of the integrative influences - genetic, experiential and environmental - that shape each individual's personality."
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 06:37 am
Science itself has studied animal behavior in a very narrow and limited way. Witness why Jane Goodall's work was considered to be ground-breaking. But zoology, animal biology, are very narrow in its' past interests.

It is this expansion of research and conceptualization in ways similar to those used for humans, which is so new. That it is accepted by all in all disciplines is another issue altogether.

My field of study was Personality and Social Psychology, and like nature-nurture, it is the interaction of the two that is most interesting, and predictive of actual behavior. But that makes it exceedingly complex. Way more complex then any one current, or recent, theory or model can handle.
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danon5
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 06:40 am
I agree Stradee, I've often said that to understand the evolving traits of the human animals prehistory, all we have to do is look at the current animal species and observe their actions. We humans went through the same transactions at some point in our past.

Early clicks today......... still no leaderboard.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 06:42 am
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What Bell discovered is that those cautious tendencies outlast the presence of risk, even by a generation. When she moved sticklebacks who had always lived in a high-risk environment into a low-risk environment, she found that not only did they retain their cautious tendencies, but so did their offspring. Even fish raised from birth in a low-risk environment behave more fearfully if raised by a particularly vigilant father from a high-risk background


Extrapolate that to humans, or human group differences, and you get an inkling of lots of things, such as the slowness of change in society. One generation is not sufficient.

And you also see how it is so hard on the individual to say that their behavior merely involves "bad choices" - like the futility of "Just say no". Our behavior is shaped and pushed and pulled in so many diverse and complex ways that the concept of free will has to be severely modified.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 06:48 am
What is also interesting is where the Darwinian model fails to explain - as in the stupid-behavior arena where behaviors have no adaptive, or survival, value.
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dagmaraka
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 06:54 am
beth, is there a team we cllick for? i mean, if i follow the link from the first post, will it know i clicked from a2k? or do i have to fill something in somewhere? not that it matters, 7.4 sq feet is 7.4 square feet, but... might as well, since i'm at it.
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sumac
 
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Reply Tue 24 Jan, 2006 07:07 am
"An actual Ford assembly line was set up in the Palace of Transportation and turned out one car every 10 minutes for three hours every afternoon, except Sunday. 4,400 cars were produced during the Exposition. "

Stradee posted this about the 1915 World's Fair in San Francisco at the beginning of this thread. I was reminded of it by all the Ford plant closings.

Too bad our workers and automobile companies aren't relatively young, so that health costs and pension issues weren't so important. Perhaps then we could better compete on the world market.

Is all of our manufacturing dominance dinosaurs for the same reasons?
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