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Bones Show Dinosaurs Lived After Cataclysmic Meteor Strike

 
 
Reply Fri 13 Jan, 2006 11:56 pm
URL: http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/424459nm01-13-06.htm

Friday, January 13, 2006
Bones May Show That Dinosaurs Lived After Cataclysmic Meteor Strike
By John Fleck
Albuquerque Journal Staff Writer

"Paleocene dinosaur" is, by definition, something of an oxymoron.

"Paleocene" is geologists' word for the epoch in Earth history that began 65 million years ago?- after the dinosaurs went extinct.

But there it is, on a shelf in the collections room at the New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science?- the gigantic leg bone of a dinosaur. In rock that some scientists think is Paleocene. It is, museum paleontologist Spencer Lucas acknowledges, a bit of a puzzle.

Paleontology is a science of gaps. Most animals, when they die, do not become fossilized. Lots of rocks are never preserved. And of those that are preserved, most are buried beyond reach. But at any moment in history, some rocks are being eroded away, and scientists like Lucas try to be there to find the bones that emerge.

That is the case with what scientists call the Ojo Alamo Sandstone, emerging in bits and pieces in the San Juan Basin, slowly yielding its fossil treasures. Fossilized pollen dates some of the rock as Paleocene in age, the epoch that came after a mountain-sized meteor hit Earth and wiped out the dinosaurs. But Lucas and others, including retired U.S. Geological Survey scientist James Fassett, have been finding dinosaur bones in it for years.

In a talk Wednesday night in Albuquerque at the monthly meeting of New Mexicans for Science and Reason, Lucas said he thinks the most likely explanation is that some of the dinosaurs they're finding died long before, and their fossils later washed into rocks being formed in the Paleocene as a new river was remaking the local landscape.

Some of the rocks are simply older, from before the meteor hit.

But he acknowledges people like Fassett, who argue that some dinosaurs lingered long after the asteroid impact, might be right.

"It's quite plausible," Lucas said. "It's an awfully big planet."

"We'd do well to keep an open mind on this question," he said.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jan, 2006 11:21 am
Re: Bones Show Dinosaurs Lived After Cataclysmic Meteor Stri
BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
URL: http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/424459nm01-13-06.htm

Friday, January 13, 2006
Bones May Show That Dinosaurs Lived After Cataclysmic Meteor Strike
By John Fleck
Albuquerque Journal Staff Writer



Dinosaurs live today. Birds are dinosaurs -- closely related to both the T-Rex and those little predatory dinosaurs with the big claw on their feet.

And very large carnivorous predatory birds (up to 3 meters/10 feet high) still existed in some places until several million years ago:

http://hoopermuseum.earthsci.carleton.ca/flightless/phorus.htm
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talk72000
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jan, 2006 04:12 pm
To go one step further mammals developed from dinosaurs
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jan, 2006 05:46 pm
talk72000 wrote:
To go one step further mammals developed from dinosaurs


That isn't correct. Mammals developed from therapsids, which developed from pelycosaurs.

The entire line, from pelycosaurs to mammals, are known as the synapsids.


Reptiles/dinosaurs/birds are a completely different line, known as diapsids.


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Trivia: We synapsids ruled the world long before the Dinosaurs took over.


Some pre-dinosaur synapsid top predators:

Dimetrodon:
http://www.emc.maricopa.edu/faculty/farabee/BIOBK/aper01b.gif

Gorgonopsid:
http://www.palaeos.com/Paleozoic/Permian/Images/Inostrancevia_and_Scutosaurus.jpg
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Paaskynen
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 10:35 am
How do they know Scutosaurus had fur? I know of dinosaur fossils found with feathers or fur, but not permian fossils.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Sun 29 Jan, 2006 11:54 am
Paaskynen wrote:
How do they know Scutosaurus had fur? I know of dinosaur fossils found with feathers or fur, but not permian fossils.


Actually, the furry attackers in the picture are the Inostrancevia, but to answer your question, they don't know.

As I understand it, they have fossils from just before the gorgonopsids that have skin with mammal-type sweat glands, but no fur.

And they have fossils from just after the gorgonopsids with fur.

Some people like to think of the gorgonopsids as having smooth skin, and some like to think of them as having fur, and it probably won't be resolved until someone finds the right fossil.
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Bobbles
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 06:35 pm
The comet that killed off the dinosaurs wasn't necessarily large enough to immediately corrupt the entire planet, the initial blast likely killed all dinosaurs within, say a 20,000 mile radius or so, leaving the rest alive. The remainder of dinosaurs simply died due to the comet's dust blocking the Sun and killing all plant life, which eventually killed animal life due to starvation. If the fossils found are on the other side of the world from where the comet hit, then it makes perfect sense.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 27 Feb, 2006 01:23 am
Bobbles wrote:
The comet that killed off the dinosaurs wasn't necessarily large enough to immediately corrupt the entire planet, the initial blast likely killed all dinosaurs within, say a 20,000 mile radius or so, leaving the rest alive. The remainder of dinosaurs simply died due to the comet's dust blocking the Sun and killing all plant life, which eventually killed animal life due to starvation. If the fossils found are on the other side of the world from where the comet hit, then it makes perfect sense.


I think the article is claiming that some dinosaurs were still alive a million years after the dust settled.
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