Anon-Voter wrote:husker wrote:dlowan do you know why Jesus wept?
Because his followers missed the entire message???
Anon
not all of them, anon. some simply walk the path, and lead by example.
as i understand the words attributed to the christ, it seems that he would wish for his followers to pray that all soldiers in all armies would lay down their weapons in peace and go home to their families.
Well, the pushing christians are up to their usual tricks. They assume, for the convenience of their self-righteous argument, that those who opposed their nonsense and their impositions are angry. It's useful for them to attempt to characterize critics as indulging an irrational emotion, because of the complete lack of rationality in their imaginary friend superstition.
The charge of bigotry is startling hypocricy. Answers-dot-com defines bigot as: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." I can think of no better definition of the pushing type of modern, evangelical American christian--and Intrepid seems to wish to be one of the club, without actually having to be an American--he loves to rant against America too much for that.
I just love this one:
"Bigot is first recorded in English in 1598 with the sense 'a superstitious hypocrite.' "
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Um, so, like... Are we prayin' for the troops or not?
Morning squinney,
How are you this morning? Yep, still praying.
i can NOT believe, i just read this entire thread.....
DontTreadOnMe wrote:Anon-Voter wrote:husker wrote:dlowan do you know why Jesus wept?
Because his followers missed the entire message???
Anon
not all of them, anon. some simply walk the path, and lead by example.
as i understand the words attributed to the christ, it seems that he would wish for his followers to pray that all soldiers in all armies would lay down their weapons in peace and go home to their families.
Finally! A Christian who gets Christ! DTOM, please accept my respects and my admiration!
Anon
Setanta wrote:Well, the pushing christians are up to their usual tricks. They assume, for the convenience of their self-righteous argument, that those who opposed their nonsense and their impositions are angry. It's useful for them to attempt to characterize critics as indulging an irrational emotion, because of the complete lack of rationality in their imaginary friend superstition.
The charge of bigotry is startling hypocricy. Answers-dot-com defines bigot as: "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ." I can think of no better definition of the pushing type of modern, evangelical American christian--and Intrepid seems to wish to be one of the club, without actually having to be an American--he loves to rant against America too much for that.
You don't give up do you. You speak nonsense.
Did you read the definition of bigot, Intrepid, instead of just responding to Setanta without reading what he writes?
squinney wrote:Um, so, like... Are we prayin' for the troops or not?
Sqinney my love, please feel free to pray!! I for one, am going to work on seeing if we can't get them some body armor. I regret that people who honestly get Christ get in the line of fire when I blow my top with these psuedo-Christians. Please accept my apologies for my frustrations as I respect you most fervently!! I defer to your prayers for our troops!!
Anon
ehBeth wrote:Did you read the definition of bigot, Intrepid, instead of just responding to Setanta without reading what he writes?
This is what I am responding to
Setanta wrote:
Quote:and Intrepid seems to wish to be one of the club, without actually having to be an American--he loves to rant against America too much for that
He knows nothing about me. He knows nothing about what I do or not feel about the U.S. He insists on making these accusations at every possible opportunity. He seems to rant about everything and everybody and does so with no facts. I am tired of his unfounded accusations.
Anon-Voter,
I am really trying very hard to understand you and your position. But, I would really like to know just how you decide who is or who isn't a real Christian.
It seems that the only ones you consider to "get Christ" are the ones that agree with you. I would like some clarification on this, if I may. I am not trying to be a smart aleck on this, Anon. Perhaps if I understand your criteria for being a Christian I can understand you better.
What do you really believe "praying for our troops" will accomplish? Do you honestly believe that less of our men and women will be killed?
The way to help our troops is to make sure that our government provides the proper eequipment for our soldiers. Did you know that this administration provided sub-standard equpment to our troops, and that was the cause of some 80 percnet of our marines getting killed for nothing?
Wake up and smell the coffee. It has nothing to do with "prayer."
I know Intrepid does not need me to stick up for him, but in all fairness here, I just did a search on his posts and I didn't find anything he ever said about America or Americans offensive.
As a matter of fact, there is one person that posts regularly their obvious hate for American and Americans and Intrepid has stuck up for America and Americans in those posts.
I would really love to see this end between Intrepid and Setanta. They are both intelligent men and I know they both have plenty to say that is pertinent to the discussions at hand.