Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 08:52 pm
I'm only 14 but I've already decided that God doesn't exist. I believe religion was first created to explain what science could not (Example: Aurora Borealis, work of the Gods.), but after a while, men realized they could use religion to control people. Though I'm sure some of the morals they set in place were positive, I belive the overall effect of religion has made a negative impact on history. Before the Renaissance, religion was probably the most corrupt it has ever been. Paying the corrupt preachers so you wouldn't have to stay in Purgatory, and church officials telling people what to do and what not to do. Today, science has finally taken an upper hand over religion and we are progressing quickly in many feilds. I beleive we would be a little further ahead in some feilds of science if scientists in the 17th anf 16 century hadn't been forced to work under strict law.
Quite obviously, the above is mostly about Christianity, but other religions have been the same. I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anybody, just expressing my opinon, and I would like responders to do the same.
 
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 08:55 pm
Yep, I'd say you're an atheist all right :wink: .

I disagree about there being no God. But, this is something everyone has to decide for themselves. I wish you the best in your life.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 08:56 pm
Re: I'm an aethist....
young_thinker wrote:
I'm only 14 but I've already decided that God doesn't exist. I believe religion was first created to explain what science could not (Example: Aurora Borealis, work of the Gods.), but after a while, men realized they could use religion to control people. Though I'm sure some of the morals they set in place were positive, I belive the overall effect of religion has made a negative impact on history. Before the Renaissance, religion was probably the most corrupt it has ever been. Paying the corrupt preachers so you wouldn't have to stay in Purgatory, and church officials telling people what to do and what not to do. Today, science has finally taken an upper hand over religion and we are progressing quickly in many feilds. I beleive we would be a little further ahead in some feilds of science if scientists in the 17th anf 16 century hadn't been forced to work under strict law.
Quite obviously, the above is mostly about Christianity, but other religions have been the same. I'm not trying to force my beliefs on anybody, just expressing my opinon, and I would like responders to do the same.


How did you prove God doesn't exist? Are you omniscient?
youngthinker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 08:57 pm
I answer a question with a question, How do you prove He does exist?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:00 pm
young_thinker wrote:
I answer a question with a question, How do you prove He does exist?

Real Life,

Let me!?

young_thinker,

You will find here on A2K that whoever makes the assertion has the burden of proof. I should know, I've been told that enough.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:01 pm
young thinker
Good for you. Age has little to nothing to do with it. Either you believe there's a G(g)od or you don't. There is no plausible excuse to be religious, except if you are too weak to face life on your own terms.
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husker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:03 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
except if you are too weak to face life on your own terms.


That gave me a laugh - you have no idea until you ride on the other side.
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youngthinker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:08 pm
Thank you edgar.

I'd also like to clarify something, I do have a sort of religion, and its called life. As Aldous Huxley once said "My father considered a walk among the mountains as the equivalent of churchgoing." and I completely agree. All you need to do to expirience "God" is going out and expiriencing life. (I;m being a bit hypocritical here because I spend 1/4 my time on the computer), you don't need to go to a building and listen to a person talk about how to live your life for a few hours.
real life
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:11 pm
young_thinker wrote:
I answer a question with a question, How do you prove He does exist?


Well, I suppose if everybody discussed as you do, they too would answer a question with a question.

So if everybody discussed as you do, would anybody learn anything?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:11 pm
They will try to confuse you here, but you don't have to let them.
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youngthinker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:14 pm
real life wrote:
young_thinker wrote:
I answer a question with a question, How do you prove He does exist?


Well, I suppose if everybody discussed as you do, they too would answer a question with a question.

So if everybody discussed as you do, would anybody learn anything?
No, indeed they wouldn't. The only possibly way to prove that God exists is the Big Bang. I kinda sounds crazy, a universe created from nothing. A scientific miracle.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:14 pm
I hope my question didn't seem like too much of a challenge for your young soulmate, EB.
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:16 pm
young_thinker wrote:
real life wrote:
young_thinker wrote:
I answer a question with a question, How do you prove He does exist?


Well, I suppose if everybody discussed as you do, they too would answer a question with a question.

So if everybody discussed as you do, would anybody learn anything?
No, indeed they wouldn't. The only possibly way to prove that God exists is the Big Bang. I kinda sounds crazy, a universe created from nothing. A scientific miracle.


So are you saying that the Big Bang proves God exists?
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youngthinker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:16 pm
Obviously, my "Just Hatched" status is quite vurnable. And no, but I think it is the strongest base that religiousman has to attack an aethiest.
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John Creasy
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:18 pm
edgarblythe wrote:
They will try to confuse you here, but you don't have to let them.


Yeah don't let those theist vultures get their claws into you. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Arella Mae
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:20 pm
young_thinker wrote:
Obviously, my "Just Hatched" status is quite vurnable. And no, but I think it is the strongest base that religiousman has to attack an aethiest.

young_thinker,

Well, just because you are Just Hatched, that doesn't make you anything other than new to A2K.

I like your thought about the Big Bang Theory. There are some that think maybe that is how God did create everything. But who knows for sure? I just know He did. He might have wiggled His nose for all I know. Just not tossing out the possibility.
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husker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:20 pm
John Creasy wrote:
edgarblythe wrote:
They will try to confuse you here, but you don't have to let them.


Yeah don't let those theist vultures get their claws into you. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


you are calling ??? vultures? people of faith?
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husker
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:21 pm
name calling - go way to get this topic locked and your post removed
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real life
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:23 pm
young_thinker wrote:
......... I think it is the strongest base that religiousman has to attack an aethiest.


Well, even assuming the Big Bang occurred ( a ' scientific miracle' occurring, as you termed it), the obvious question is:

where did the matter and energy that interacted in the Big Bang come from?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 6 Jan, 2006 09:24 pm
Edgarblythe wrote:
Quote:
There is no plausible excuse to be religious,except if you are too weak to face life on your own terms.


Weakness has nothing to do with it. You can be religious and still face life on your own terms. Like they say..... walk in my mocassins.
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