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Fri 18 Apr, 2003 12:03 am
How long is Bush going to get away with bamboozling the American public?
I keep reading about the rebuilding of Iraq. My question is how much of the rebuilding is needed as a result of our action and how much is due to an infrastructure that was neglected, falling apart and never existed?
As far as who should get the contracts IMO they should all go to US and British industries and those of friendly nations. France, Russia and Germany should get zero,nada.
jjorge*197982*
How long is Bush going to get away with bamboozling the American public?
As long as the majority agree with his action. I was against the action originally but after reading about the atrocities committed by the Saddam regime I now believe the action was needed. The UN just based upon the human rights violations, which they were fully aware of, should have sanctioned it. Just another failing of that august organization
From the LA Times
By Mark Fineman
Halliburton Unit's Bill for Iraq Work MountsFodder for Critics
Antiwar activists have asserted that U.S. corporate profits were among the motives in waging the campaign in Iraq, which has the second-largest oil reserves on the globe. Other critics have charged that the Dallas-based Halliburton has received preferential treatment from the Bush administration.
Cheney was Halliburton's chief executive officer for five years until he resigned in August 2000 to be George W. Bush's running mate. Cheney no longer owns stock in the company, and spokesmen for both the Pentagon and KBR deny favoritism; both said the Army logistics contract sanctioning the company's work for the Iraq reconstruction agency was competitively bid before it was awarded in 2001.
But another contract that KBR won to repair Iraq's oil fields and put out postwar oil and gas fires was not competitively bid. And it has been a lightning rod for criticism.
The Army Corps of Engineers, citing urgency and the need for secrecy, awarded KBR the exclusive, classified oil contract March 8, after KBR had done a similarly classified study on how to solve Iraq's postwar oil problems.
Rep. Henry A. Waxman (D-Los Angeles) is spearheading an effort to expose details of the KBR oil contract, and his latest exchange of letters with Army Corps commander Lt. Gen. Robert Flowers this week disclosed that the scope of work for Halliburton's subsidiary in Iraq's oil industry goes well beyond firefighting and emergency repairs.
In a May 2 letter, Flowers wrote that the Halliburton contract also includes "operation of facilities and distribution of products" for the Iraqi oil industry.
Flowers added that the contract, which has a ceiling of $7 billion but is expected to cost much less, will continue at least until August, when the corps is planning to issue a competitively bid contract to repair Iraq's oil infrastructure that could run through 2004.
Lesser-Known Contract
Far lesser known is the contract that the Pentagon used to deploy KBR to set up, cater to and care for the Iraq-based officials of the postwar reconstruction agency here. That contract has no cost ceiling!!!!!
PDiddie:
That's one of the best quotes I've seen in a while. It doesn't necessaraily take a Democrat to see the retrogressive nature of the Republicans, their greed and willingness to sacrifice the interests of the public to their warped agenda.
I appreciate not paying taxes on my dividends. Thanks, President Bush.
Ouch! Yeah, thanks, Mr. President.
oh yeah and thanks Mr President for sending the bill to my childrend's children.
so much for the Repubs demand for the Balanced Budget Amendment
Look at the Commonwealth of Massachusetts if you want to see what happens when someone tries to balance a budget.
We might be headed for the next American Revolution.
will King Dubya get his tea dumped in the harbor?
Actually, new haven's response provides the answer to many of the questions. It is beautifuly simplistic
"I appreciate not paying taxes on my dividends. Thanks, President Bush."
No thought, no care, no plan, nothing. The very nature of republicans today is the "I" - never a "We" or a "You." And it all wraps around money, as described above. But the money as defined in it's mine, I'm keeping it.
And, deserved or not, that has helped defined the democrats as people who care, who are concerned about the welfare of people.
Ah, but this represents a great threat to the republicans, so they arm themselves with lies, deceits, people who can be bought, nastiness, meaness, threats, considered ways to demonize and destroy all those who don't agree.
You know how a lot of the Arabs refer to America (and they do single out Bush a lot) as the Great Satan? This is the continuing epic battle between good and bad.
See, new haven, one of the things that distinguishes us is this, I don't want your money for myself. I want a rightful share of it so it can be distributed to help others. You want your money because it's yours, and you want to spend it on yourself. Just change the nouns in what was written above to I and you.
As usual, when you start getting to the core of things, it gets simpler.
Over analysis leads to paralysis is something I think the democrats should consider.
mamajuana wrote:Actually, new haven's response provides the answer to many of the questions. It is beautifuly simplistic"
I'm just a simple, little person trying to make it in tough world.
Re: Thanks for Nothing, Bush's Gift to Taxpayers . . .
Quote:...with huge contracts awarded in secret...
If there are actually contracts being awarded in secret, how does Kinsley know? And if he actually has evidence of same, why is he keeping it to himself?
Seems like a pretty convenient claim to make. It may well be true, but how are we to know? (The only contracts Kinsley mentions are anything but secret.)
So, on the Daily Tax Cut Speech show on CNN today, Commander Joystick talked about the Riyadh bombings and vowed that we'd hunt down those responsible and give them a taste of 'American Justice.'
Would that be the same 'American Justice' that we showed to Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein?
If so, rest assured the Riyadh bombers will be free for the rest of their natural lives.
(As a Houston Rockets fan, I'm reminded of the '90s and the New York Knicks and the Patrick Ewing era, when at the beginning of every season Ewing would guarantee a championship. Ha. Ha. Ha.)
Scrat: When... they... were... awarded... it... was.... done.... quietly... and... without.... competitive.... bids....
Okay?