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The US, UN & Iraq III

 
 
Tartarin
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2003 09:32 pm
What are facts worth when you've got the media?!
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2003 09:35 pm
set

I haven't bumped into that incident anywhere in the press, even english...have you? or from europe, walter?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2003 09:47 pm
This president doesn't rely on polls, his 'intelligence,' nor the American People. c.i.
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BillW
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2003 11:13 pm
ie, "I'm not a fact checker ............." geez, what a leader, I'm gonna puke!!!!!!
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 28 Jul, 2003 11:25 pm
blatham wrote:
set

I haven't bumped into that incident anywhere in the press, even english...have you? or from europe, walter?


If you mean the incident with the Japanese camera team, i heard that on NPR's Morning Edition Monday. If you mean the mission in general, then i'd suggest you need to do a little research: there is a team of G.I.'s, about 20 i believe, whose purpose it is to hunt down people on the "hit-list" of Iraqis. They were operating in the Mansour district in which was located the villa that had been the target of an ariel bombardment at the very beginning of the war, in the belief that Saddam and his sons were there. I saw this as a news item at the Road Runner home page, on the aol home page, and heard it on the radio. I didn't dig any deeper than that, because my life is full of other things, and i haven't the time to read unless something is unclear to me. There is nothing unclear to me about such an operation. I'm sure it's mounted by ASA, the Army Security Agency, or whatever they call it now, and i'm sure it uses MP's or others not tainted by membership in the Special Forces, of which ASA was hatefully jealous when i was in.

I know this seems to have the quality of rumor, but i don't doubt the sources i saw. RR's home page is supplied their news by CNN, which can hardly be described as a left-wing organization with an agenda; aol gets the news for their home page from the Associated Press. Only god knows where NPR gets their news, but as i sure you're aware, she and i are not on speaking terms.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 12:27 am
Yeah, I'd heard she was pissed. Let me know if you'd like me to intervene. One night, on what was to be my final acid trip, I had the opportunity to meet God. We were both disappointed.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 04:04 am
Just in case you'd like to see how we stand behind our ex-POWs here in the USA....
Today's NYT
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/29/politics/29POW.html?th

All right class. If the US is SPENDING what 3.8 billion a month in Iraq, how much is that per year and how much is each veteran asking for each DAY of torture by the Hussein government?

Joe
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 07:47 am
I saw a sign of sheer desperation last week: the White House asked James Baker III to take over the reconstruction of Iraq.

Well, looks like Baker knows not to try and fix the unfixable, and has declined to help:

Quote:
The Bush administration said yesterday that former secretary of state James A. Baker III will not join the Iraq reconstruction effort, as some administration officials had hoped.

Baker was among several prominent figures some administration officials hoped to entice into taking charge of specific tasks related to the rebuilding process, such as seeking money from other countries or restructuring Iraq's debt.

State Department spokesman Richard A. Boucher said at his daily briefing that neither Baker nor Secretary of State Colin L. Powell "had ever heard about it -- it's a dead parrot."

Man, when Poppy's favorite fixer won't get involved, you can conclude things are screwed.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 09:15 am
Baker was strongly against Bush's Iraq debacle - he is wisely standing aside!
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mamajuana
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 12:51 pm
Interesing how this is beginning to look. So many of the Bush senior crowd - Scowcroft, Baker Bush himself - were against this Iraq invasion. Scowcroft wrote an op-ed for the NY Times detailing why it was a bad idea. Most definitely cracks that are beginning to show.

Joe - and the article says that the reason the administration is in court is to get the judge's order rescinded, on the grounds that they need the money for the reconstruction of Iraq. On the one hand, as a member of the service, I'm not so sure about suing another country for damages. On the other, this does send a message to the troops.

Acid? hmmmmm......
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 01:38 pm
My, this is getting enjoyable!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 01:46 pm
Dubya knew about yellow cake but apparantly not a thing about pretzels.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 01:47 pm
He snorted the yellow cake but he didn't swallow!
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 01:59 pm
How ironic that one doesn't find what Dubya preaches as hard to swallow. Pretzels, incidentally, don't taste that good without a good brew.
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Tartarin
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 01:59 pm
Bill!!!

(But the vision of Bush imploding due to unrefined uranium is a nice picture which I'll cherish.)
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 02:01 pm
Dubya could never implode -- he's too puffed up with the opinion of his own worthiness. He's the personification of the classic dry drunk.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 02:05 pm
LW, Dubya is a lot more dangerous than any dry drunk I've ever known. c.i.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Tue 29 Jul, 2003 02:24 pm
Of course -- anyone who is in that frame of mind and is given that kind of power is far more dangerous than your average next door neighbor. Nobody really deserves to have that kind of power because there isn't a human being on Earth that is capable of that enormous responsibility. That makes those who are in office easyn to criticize and difficult to forgive. Now, anyone with any modicum of sense could not possibly forgive Nixon for his treachery. Those who do are traveling down that river in Egypt.
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2003 04:07 am
I read today that the Saudis are accepting the decision not to declassify the section of the 9-11 report regarding them. I guess if the US had classified a section about me that showed I was either a willing and knowing money pumper for the terrorists OR a too rich dope who didn't have a clue where any of the cash I was doling out was going to (including to people that might kill me.) I think I would be happy to continue to have that all be a secret.

How bout you?
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Gelisgesti
 
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Reply Wed 30 Jul, 2003 06:19 am
a
http://www.allhatnocattle.net/bush%20savior1.jpg

GEORGE W BUSH : THE BORN AGAIN AMERICAN AYATOLLAH

""You know I had a drinking problem," Bush told a
group of clergy who met with him last September. "Right
now I should be in a bar in Texas, not the Oval Office.
There is only one reason that I am in the Oval Office
and not in a bar. I found faith! I found God!""
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