Interesting article from the boston Pheonix blatham thanks.
I rather like the Southern Baptists, at least you know what you're getting...no wishy washy Church of England hand wringing and equivocating. Take this quote from Dr. Jerry Vines, pastor of the First Baptist Church of Jacksonville, Florida.
"Islam was founded by Mohammed, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives — and his last one was a nine-year-old girl."
Nine year old girl ? ! ? ! ?
Was Mohammed from West Virginia?
er maybe....I'm going to think very carefully before answering that one, I suspect a trap.
West Virgina . . . three million citizens, nine family names . . .
Saw this and thought of you guys...
Uh oh, Blatham. I have a QUIBBLE with you! -- or maybe a hen/egg dispute. You write: "Richard Perle and Ann Coulter are ubiquitous because they understand that the media is a voracious vacuum that will fill up with something...so they fill it with their voices."
Who's the voracious vacuum? It's the public, without whom the media would close down, without whom Perle and Coulter would be confining their opinions to their spouses and shower stalls. The media are interMEDIAries, not end users. We get to call the shots by a) watching, reading, listening, (or not) and b) buying advertised products (or not). We prefer (evidently) to gorge ourselves on 24/7 titillation (aka, newsertainment). When we're disgusted with what we see and hear, we portray ourselves as victims in this mess, and we are not. If not also the perps, we're at least the collaborators. Ain't nothin' gonna change till we change.
McGentrix
Even the cartoons you like are...well, the only word to describe it is...slugh.
Oh, c'mon now! You don't honestly think that even _I_ don't find that a bit too much...Just thought it was funny. I mean the Bush voodoo doll is a great touch!
Steve - My you changed direction suddenly... okay.
Is it possible that Ritter refused requests for interviews, or must it be a conspiracy?
Tartarin
Our first fight!....I am beside myself (and no handsomer over there, damn).
True, it is a two-sided equation. I have to head out door, so can't take this one up right now, but quickly I'd suggest that 1) I see the change occuring not in the audience so much as in the provider, and 2) I see possibility for 'correction' by going after media ownership via legislation but very little hope of changing broad social behavior.
scrat
For goodness sake...where did you dredge up the term 'conspiracy' from?
Tartarin, I think that was Setanta actually.
I agree with you to a certain extent, but I think Set makes some good points. Most people don't have the time to search for news, they just go down the News o Mart and help themselves. You can't blame them.
McGentrix: that cartoon
Believe me as a Brit I have no partisan axe to grind on Pearl Harbour (except for the spelling, ok Harbor it is). In fact I never really thought about it in any depth, until quite recently that is. But I now think it quite likely that FDR knew it was going to happen and allowed the US fleet to be caught napping. A horrible thought perhaps, but the eventual outcome was good. So thanks FDR (and thanks to all those American boys who fought with us against the nazis).
Also were not the original Pearl Harbor conspiracy theorists from the Republican right against Democrat FDR? The cartoon implies all "alternative" histories come from the left.
A too fertile and unfettered an imagination . . .
(edited to note that this is a response to BLatham's last question . . . )
Scrat, regarding my sudden change in direction, I find that intriguing...where did you have me coming from before, and where now?
I don't think there was necessarily a conspiracy to keep Scot Ritter off the tv. He might have as you suggest, just decided not to give interviews, maybe the fees weren't grand enough. Or it might be that he was scared to death about being fitted up with false charges of peadeophilia...who knows.
I watched Scott Ritter resist the insinuations of, turn the tables on, and quietly, effectively embarrass a Fox interviewer (who got frustrated and mad as hell) It was fun to watch, like watching really good defense during a basketball game. Not having TV, I don't know when Ritter stopped being on TV, as you all say, but I wouldn't be surprised if those interviewers who have been trying to embarrass Ritter have backed off after that Fox debacle. I saw this at the health club a couple of months ago, pre-war. For those who might wonder which Foxy I mean, I don't know his name, but he has kind of a brushcut and wide eyes and is on in the early afternoon CST.
Promoting the idea that Bush staged a scenerio to invade Iraq based on WMD being anything like World War II, Pearl Harbor or the like is a ludicrous red herring. It's political propaganda in the end that there may be a politcal price to pay. Ante up...
lw
please expand on this:
"It's political propaganda in the end that there may be a politcal price to pay."