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~ta plurals that do not end in ~mata

 
 
Reply Tue 27 Dec, 2005 12:32 pm
I've recently developed an interest for the exotic Greek plural which ends in ~ta. Every word I've found thusfar ends in ~mata - is this the case with all of them; do they all end in ~mata? Can anyone quote any ~ta plural words that end in something other than ~mata?

Also, how correct is it to pluralize words like axiom and idiom as axiomata and idiomata? Etymologically, this would be correct. Furthermore, it is correct to pluralize chiasm as chiasmata. Are axioma and idioma acceptable spellings for axiom and idiom, respectably?

Thank you in advance for all help provided.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 11:06 am
Personally, I think regressing to Greek grammar makes for unnecessary complications in English prose.

"Correct" is not always graceful.
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Director DJ
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 11:44 am
I researched the etymologies of axiom and idiom precisely because I felt that 'axioms' and 'idioms' sounded "ungraceful"; having found that they could etymologically be pluralized by adding -ata instead of -s, I was much more comfortable using their plural forms.

I think it would be very easy to learn this Greek-originated plural if its use is confined to words ending in -ma. How many words are there that end in -ma? I agree, it may make things much more difficult if the +ta plural could apply to all words ending in -a; which is why I asked "do they all end in ~mata?".

True, Greek gives us some difficult plurals (such as octopus / platypus > octopodes / platypodes), but that's all they are - difficult. In truth, there's nothing less graceful than some of the plurals that end with an added -s or -es (just think of hypothesises - haipoþesisiz, instead of hypotheses - haipoþesīz).

Thanks for your contribution, along some help with the original questions would be greatly appreciated.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 05:33 pm
Director DJ--

Sorry, on this issue, I have only opinions and no useful information.

Welcome to A2K.
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Director DJ
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 05:59 pm
Any reply is better than none.

May I ask where you stand on other plural forms of foreign origin?
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rhymer
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 06:18 pm
I have compiled a list of just over 400 words ending 'ta'.
Unfortunately, I am not sufficiently privileged to PM yourself.

Can you PM with your email address?

I will then email the list to you for 'looking them up' in a dictionary for meanings and possible plurality.
We would both hold each others email addresses in confidence!
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Director DJ
 
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Reply Thu 5 Jan, 2006 06:28 pm
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