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Abortion is criminal!

 
 
PetriFB
 
Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 04:27 am
Have you ever had an abortion or have you ever been in such a situation of your life that you planned to have an abortion? Many women have faced this situation and they have not known how to act in this matter, as they have not been properly informed about the situation in question.

We are going to discuss this matter, which is not the lightest of subjects. We are going to concern ourselves especially with the appropriateness of abortion, and what arguments are used for its justification and how fertilization and the development of the foetus take place. These points are important to clarify because much depends on them, namely, our opinions concerning this matter.

In any case, the next citation will show us just how difficult this matter of an unexpected pregnancy can be for many persons, especially if they have not mentally prepared themselves for it - it may feel like a heavy burden for them. This example also shows us that in spite of all propaganda, many women who have had abortions have later understood how they had done something wrong. They feel guilt, but they cannot undo what they had done.

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Wilso
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 04:31 am
Can I hazard a guess that you believe the death penalty is OK?
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PetriFB
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 04:51 am
Wilso wrote:
Can I hazard a guess that you believe the death penalty is OK?


I leave judging to God.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:29 am
PetriFB wrote:
Wilso wrote:
Can I hazard a guess that you believe the death penalty is OK?


I leave judging to God.


You may, but in some countries the death penalty is carried out by human beings. You certainly have an opinion on fetuses. I would suspect that you have an opinion on the death penalty. Would you share your views with us?
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PetriFB
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:43 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
PetriFB wrote:
Wilso wrote:
Can I hazard a guess that you believe the death penalty is OK?


I leave judging to God.


You may, but in some countries the death penalty is carried out by human beings. You certainly have an opinion on fetuses. I would suspect that you have an opinion on the death penalty. Would you share your views with us?


I think that abortion is a sin. And wages of the sin is the death. But carrying out the sentence of the death is matter of God not man.

God will judge and decide that who must go to hell.

Our task is preach and teach like it is written in the Bible. We say that wages of the sin is the death and God will carry out the sentence.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:49 am
PetriFB- What would you, as a human being, think is an appropriate earthly punishment for a, let's say, serial killer, like Jeffrey Dahmer?
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PetriFB
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:51 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
PetriFB- What would you, as a human being, think is an appropriate earthly punishment for a, let's say, serial killer, like Jeffrey Dahmer?


Lifelong imprisonment.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:53 am
PetriFB wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
PetriFB- What would you, as a human being, think is an appropriate earthly punishment for a, let's say, serial killer, like Jeffrey Dahmer?


Lifelong imprisonment.


How can you now make a judgement when you have just said above that you leave judging to God?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:54 am
Good point, Intrepid!
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PetriFB
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 05:59 am
Intrepid wrote:
PetriFB wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
PetriFB- What would you, as a human being, think is an appropriate earthly punishment for a, let's say, serial killer, like Jeffrey Dahmer?


Lifelong imprisonment.


How can you now make a judgement when you have just said above that you leave judging to God?


Was question about judging people to death and prison. Two different thing.

God judges to eternal death and men judges to prison.
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:02 am
I thought God was nice and wasnt supposed to judge.

Didnt he sentence his own son to death?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:03 am
PetriFB wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
PetriFB wrote:
Phoenix32890 wrote:
PetriFB- What would you, as a human being, think is an appropriate earthly punishment for a, let's say, serial killer, like Jeffrey Dahmer?


Lifelong imprisonment.


How can you now make a judgement when you have just said above that you leave judging to God?


Was question about judging people to death and prison. Two different thing.

God judges to eternal death and men judges to prison.


I am sorry to differ but a Christian would not separate the two. Scripture tells us not to judge lest we are judged. Whether you judge whether someone should be put to death or put into jail is still judging. You cannot separate the two just because it is your choice.

We can have our opinions of fact, but should not make actual judgements.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:06 am
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God judges to eternal death and men judges to prison.


PetriFB- In order for your supposition to make sense, one would have to know that there even IS a God. I don't think that anyone really even knows. And certainly, an anthropromorphic emissary is certainly a stretch of the imagination.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:07 am
material girl wrote:
I thought God was nice and wasnt supposed to judge.

Didnt he sentence his own son to death?


He did not sentence his son to death. He sent his son to take on the sins of man. This is, however, seeming to go off topic from abortion Embarrassed
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:24 am
Intrepid wrote:


He did not sentence his son to death. He sent his son to take on the sins of man. :


Right, so if God knew that man was being naughty why did he send his son in with the possibility of recieving the death sentence.

Good and bad, God and the Devil.Its all relative isnt it, God is good, God would be against abortion, Devil is bad, devil would be fore abortion so its not completely off topic.

Would we have morals if we didnt have the fear of God put into us from an early age?
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:29 am
Intrepid wrote:
material girl wrote:
I thought God was nice and wasnt supposed to judge.

Didnt he sentence his own son to death?


He did not sentence his son to death. He sent his son to take on the sins of man. This is, however, seeming to go off topic from abortion Embarrassed


No, not really. In PetriFB's' thesis the issue of the appropriateness of abortion, stems from biblical teachings. To many people, the bible is the word of God.

In order to take the stand that abortion is wrong, one must make the assumption that the bible is either the word of God or inspired by God. In addition, one must maintain that there is a God, in the first place. Therefore, discussing the bible, and whether it is or isn't the word of God is not going off the topic. It is the heart of the matter.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:31 am
material girl wrote:
Would we have morals if we didn't have the fear of God put into us from an early age?


Why not? Does a person have to fear some deity in order to behave like a civilized human being? I think that you are selling humanity short!
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:35 am
Phoenix32890 wrote:
material girl wrote:
Would we have morals if we didn't have the fear of God put into us from an early age?


Why not? Does a person have to fear some deity in order to behave like a civilized human being? I think that you are selling humanity short!



Fair enough but there are a heck of aot of people who are too scared to do anything supposedly bad incase they go to hell.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 06:42 am
material girl wrote:
Fair enough but there are a heck of aot of people who are too scared to do anything supposedly bad incase they go to hell.


That is so sad, and really frightening to contemplate.
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material girl
 
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Reply Wed 7 Dec, 2005 08:14 am
I agree!
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