Condi Rice Goes to Europe!

What I mean is, let's torture senior members of al-Qa'ida for information, then torture them for fun, then kill them and leave their bodies in a ditch somewhere.

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Ya figure? Cutting their tongues out would be fine then? Removing their testicles with a rusty cleaver ok? Hot coals up their ass?

guys in the village are paying big bucks for that kind of thing.....

I think the difference of opinion centers on the word "human".

I reject the proposition that members of al-Qa'ida have human rights.

That said, I see no reason why we have to offend European sensibilities by conducting torture on their soil. We can torture just as well elsewhere.

When you torture someone for months and then determine that person turns out to be innocent.... do you apologize nicely? How does that work? How is that ok according to you? will be curious to hear an answer.

Diane, as she often does, has spoken wisely. Condi may be despicable, but she's earned her status as a Bush apologist legitimately.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4824766

"As I was telling my husb-- As I was telling President Bush." Condoleezza Rice, at a dinner party hosted by New York Times D.C. bureau chief Philip Taubman and his wife, Times reporter Felicity Barringer

I reject the proposition that members of al-Qa'ida have human rights.

That said, I see no reason why we have to offend European sensibilities by conducting torture on their soil. We can torture just as well elsewhere.

D'artagnan wrote:

Diane, as she often does, has spoken wisely. Condi may be despicable, but she's earned her status as a Bush apologist legitimately.

Well, after all, Bush is her husb... I mean president.

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http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4824766

"As I was telling my husb-- As I was telling President Bush." Condoleezza Rice, at a dinner party hosted by New York Times D.C. bureau chief Philip Taubman and his wife, Times reporter Felicity Barringer

http://www.newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/news/people/columns/intelligencer/n_10245/index.html

Political Conversation: Condi's Slip
A pressing issue of dinner-party etiquette is vexing Washington, according to a story now making the D.C. rounds: How should you react when your guest, in this case national-security adviser Condoleezza Rice, makes a poignant faux pas? At a recent dinner party hosted by New York Times D.C. bureau chief Philip Taubman and his wife, Times reporter Felicity Barringer, and attended by Arthur Sulzberger Jr., Maureen Dowd, Steven Weisman, and Elisabeth Bumiller, Rice was reportedly overheard saying, "As I was telling my husb--" and then stopping herself abruptly, before saying, "As I was telling President Bush." Jaws dropped, but a guest says the slip by the unmarried politician, who spends weekends with the president and his wife, seemed more psychologically telling than incriminating. Nobody thinks Bush and Rice are actually an item. A National Security Council spokesman laughed and said, "No comment."

uhmmm. "torture them for fun..."
just trying to get a clear sense of oralloy. wow. that and human rights in one post..... kinda oxymoronic.

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I reject the proposition that members of al-Qa'ida have human rights.

That said, I see no reason why we have to offend European sensibilities by conducting torture on their soil. We can torture just as well elsewhere.

Let's go right to beheading them.

uhmmm. "torture them for fun..."
just trying to get a clear sense of oralloy.

man i hope you are! i would hope they would arrest them. if they wouldn't and would proceed according to your wishful thinking, that wouldn't make it right, moral, or legal. while understandable, it would be a criminally punishable vengeance.

Well, they weren't as brutal as I wished, but I kinda like that the CIA did #5:

[URL=http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866]http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Investigation/story?id=1322866[/URL] 3. [b]The Belly Slap[/b]: A hard open-handed slap to the stomach. The aim is to cause pain, but not internal injury. Doctors consulted advised against using a punch, which could cause lasting internal damage. 4. [b]Long Time Standing[/b]: This technique is described as among the most effective. Prisoners are forced to stand, handcuffed and with their feet shackled to an eye bolt in the floor for more than 40 hours. Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are effective in yielding confessions. 5. [b]The Cold Cell[/b]: The prisoner is left to stand naked in a cell kept near 50 degrees (10 degrees Celsius). Throughout the time in the cell the prisoner is doused with cold water. 6. [b]Water Boarding[/b]: The prisoner is bound to an inclined board, feet raised and head slightly below the feet. Cellophane is wrapped over the prisoner's face and water is poured over him. Unavoidably, the gag reflex kicks in and a terrifying fear of drowning leads to almost instant pleas to bring the treatment to a halt.