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Oprah to Hillary, You Go Girl, Run for President

 
 
sozobe
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 09:31 am
I completely agree with ebrown about her horribleness as a candidate.

I think I like her more, personally, than he does, but am fervently hoping she won't be the Dem presidential candidate in 2008.
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JustWonders
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 10:34 am
I think the latest polls show her as the frontrunner in getting the nomination, though.

As I recall, the same poll indicated if pitched against McCain, he'd win by 10 points.

Personally, I think the nomination is hers for the asking....even before Oprah's comment.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 10:36 am
Yeah really, just what we need, another Clinton Republican in the whitehouse.
Vote early
vote often
vote Kucinich.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 11:09 am
In a slightly related topic...

I am gaining more and more respect for John McCain.

He is not the progressive type that I would normally support, but he has done a few things that have gotten my attention.

His courage and passion about the anti-torture legislation.
His pragmatism and compassion in the undocumented immigration issue.

I am willing to bend a bit on my liberal politics to support a person with strength, principles and integrity.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 12:15 pm
I believe McCain has the reputation of being the last honest politician.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 12:19 pm
McCain, a political vocalist with the range of half an octave.
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panzade
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 12:34 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
You just made my point.

Hillary would be a horrible president. This has nothing to do with her gender.


I respect your opinion of Hillary and I agree that the Democratic candidates have been a disaster but I ask you: If a man runs for offfice it has nothing to do with gender; if a woman runs it has everything to do with gender. Sexism is the last great form of racism in this country and it is alive and well it seems
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:12 pm
I won't vote for or support HIllary. That has nothing to do with gender.

I would gladly vote for Sozobe because of her strength, character and integrity. This also has nothing to do with her gender.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 05:23 pm
In order to have a Democrat in the White House again,
let's not nominate Hillary for a possible candidate.
She has very little integrity in my book.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 06:27 pm
How 'bout a Mexican President?
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 06:28 pm
Que?
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kuvasz
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 06:30 pm
this is one life-long liberal democrat who would vote for Lucifer himself before Hillary Clinton.

and as much as i detest george bush, i might even vote for him before hillary clinton.

how quaint that a billionaire like Opray should run off at the mouth and tell us common folk that having senator clinton run for president would be a priviledge for us to endure.

as smart and ambitious as her husband, totally without his sense of personal compassion.

a shark, in it only for herself.

but to be fair, i do like her boobies.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 06:34 pm
boobs good.


who then? who should be the Dem candidate??????
Of coarse it doesn't really matter intill we fix the electric voting machines.
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Sat 26 Nov, 2005 06:36 pm
Right! Let's have some independent outside source oversee
the election. I wonder what Fidel is up to on election day Wink
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 02:18 am
¿Que?
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twinpeaksnikki2
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 02:19 am
CTRL ALT ? ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 05:05 am
Speaking as a ferriner - I don't think her boobs are much to look at really.

Anyway I did one of those online poll things ages ago and it came out Kucinich so unless he runs I wouldn't be much bothered cheering from afar. But of course I'm an alien so what I say doesn't matter.

But on behalf of the Rest of the World. Don't select a dummy again. Please! Sad
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 07:22 am
fishin' wrote:
blatham wrote:
Bah! To vote for a woman president because she will be the first woman president is obviously not sexist in the same sense as voting against a woman because she is a woman, so let's not pretend a complete lack of difference here.


Why isn't it the same?

If you are voting (or not) for someone and the over-riding criteria for your decision is the person's sex then it's sexist. Claiming that it's "not the same" is just a way of rationalizing a justification for being sexist.


fishin

It's the difference between Jackie Robinson and any black kid playing pro ball today. What makes them the same is obvious, but what makes them different is of clear social importance.

Back then, there was a very sound reason to BE "racist" - in one sense you suggest that word. There were no blacks playing pro ball and (from a consideration of social justice/equality) there ought to have been blacks in pro ball. Anyone setting actively to the task of placing a black there might be termed racist, but to use the term in that way is to reverse its meaning.

Which is why I brought up the "strange fruit" metaphor. When 98% of men swinging from oak trees were black, what is gained if you use the term "racist" to describe noting race in that statistical breakdown I just mentioned? And what is lost?
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 07:44 am
Amigo wrote:
How 'bout a Mexican President?


or a black president?

...... actually.. how about a president with color? Who cares what it is?
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blatham
 
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Reply Sun 27 Nov, 2005 07:45 am
Re McCain...

I think the chances of McCain gaining the Republican nomination are close to zero. The religious right does not want him, nor do many other powerful forces in the modern party.

A lobbyist aims at McCain...

Note the typical sleeze from Norquist suggesting McCain's activities are racist.
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