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Top Democrat urges Iraq pullout

 
 
Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 01:15 pm
Thursday, 17 November 2005

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An influential Democratic congressman - who voted for the Iraq invasion in 2003 - has called for the immediate withdrawal of US forces from Iraq.

John Murtha - a decorated Vietnam War veteran - said US troops had become "a catalyst for violence" in Iraq.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:32 pm
I think it's amazing how fast you can go from being a well thought of legislator and decorated Vietnam veteran, to cowardly traitor.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:35 pm
Is that it? Just a personal smear? Name-calling? Is this a meme?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:38 pm
Murtha, a Marine intelligence officer in Vietnam, angrily shot back at Cheney: "I like guys who've never been there that criticize us who've been there. I like that. I like guys who got five deferments and never been there and send people to war, and then don't like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done."

Referring to Bush, Murtha added: "I resent the fact, on Veterans Day, he criticized Democrats for criticizing them."
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talk72000
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:43 pm
To call as decorated veteran a "traitor" for not supporting a coward's war of gain is the height of idiocy and treachery.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:43 pm
The angry striking out behaviour is instructive. I think it's indicative of a politically terminal condition. "The Madness of King George".
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:45 pm
goodfielder wrote:
Is that it? Just a personal smear? Name-calling? Is this a meme?

You forgot "opinion."
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:48 pm
Who has called Murtha a traitor? I don't think that's the correct way to read Stevepax' post. If someone else has called him a traitor, I'm not aware of it.

He's not a traitor, he's just wrong ... that's all.
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goodfielder
 
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Reply Thu 17 Nov, 2005 09:49 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
goodfielder wrote:
Is that it? Just a personal smear? Name-calling? Is this a meme?

You forgot "opinion."


That's not an opinion Brandon. An opinion has a modicum of reason.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2005 03:06 pm
Stevepax wrote:
I think it's amazing how fast you can go from being a well thought of legislator and decorated Vietnam veteran, to cowardly traitor.


This is known as sarcasm Smile
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2005 03:09 pm
Ticomaya wrote:


He's not a traitor, he's just wrong ... that's all.


He's "a fine man" and "a strong supporter of the military" according to Bush in Bejing, and "People should feel comfortable about expressing their opinions about Iraq."
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2005 03:11 pm
Stevepax wrote:
Stevepax wrote:
I think it's amazing how fast you can go from being a well thought of legislator and decorated Vietnam veteran, to cowardly traitor.


This is known as sarcasm Smile


Actually, the better explanation is being facetious.
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Stevepax
 
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Reply Sun 20 Nov, 2005 03:14 pm
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Ticomaya wrote:


He's not a traitor, he's just wrong ... that's all.


He's "a fine man" and "a strong supporter of the military" according to Bush in Bejing, and "People should feel comfortable about expressing their opinions about Iraq."


Bush can't stand dissent, or criticism, because everything he has ever done has been right Smile
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