PNAC-America's plan to take global control

There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse.

This, despite shameful acts like the Mexican War. When los Estatdos Unidos del Rio de Plata (The Unites States of the River Plate--i.e., Argentina) was threatened with English intervention, American frigates called at Buenos Aires and Mar del Plata. We may not have been a credible threat to the Royal Navy, but it was sufficient to convince the English of the "unwisdom" of such an intervention, and the likely cause thereof. Monroe's 1823 message to Congress (the "State of the Union Address" was once simply a long letter from the President to Congress) was ridiculed in European capitals--but none of them challenged the proposition that the United States would tolerate no new colonization in the new world.

During the American Civil War, many European powers would have liked to have intervened on behalf of the Confederate States, given a long contempt for and animosity toward the United States. The English PM, Palmerston, was a rabid hater of the United States, and publicly scorned Lincoln and Seward. Nevertheless, when USS San Jacinto stopped HMS Trent and took the Confederate agents, Mason and Slidell, Palmerston backed down. During a long career as Foreign Secretary, he had consistently bullied lesser powers with the threat of the Royal Navy, even using such threats to collect private debts for English subjects--but he wouldn't take on the United States Navy--it would have been an expensive and ruinous war, but more than that, it likely would have been political suicide for his ministry. The working class of England idolized Lincoln, and they, along with their French counterparts in the textile industry, not only accepted the economic hardship of the Federal blockade of southern cotton--they refused to work in mills using southern cotton which had already reached England and France. A pre-eminent street politician, and a clueless international politician and diplomat, Louis Bonaparte--the soi disant Napoleon III--would have loved to interfer on behalf of the southern Confederacy, and he couldn't. For precisely the same reasons which paralyzed Palmerston, Napoleon III had to heed the public opinion which made a hero of Lincoln to the working class. Even in the very citadel of reactionary oppression, the Holy Alliance (Prussia, Austria, Russia), the Emperor Alexander emancipated the Russian serfs in honor of the reputation of Lincoln.

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There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse . . . but no more . . . we have become our own worst enemies, and a byword for hegemonic repression.

There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse.

This, despite shameful acts like the Mexican War. When los Estatdos Unidos del Rio de Plata (The Unites States of the River Plate--i.e., Argentina) was threatened with English intervention, American frigates called at Buenos Aires and Mar del Plata. We may not have been a credible threat to the Royal Navy, but it was sufficient to convince the English of the "unwisdom" of such an intervention, and the likely cause thereof. Monroe's 1823 message to Congress (the "State of the Union Address" was once simply a long letter from the President to Congress) was ridiculed in European capitals--but none of them challenged the proposition that the United States would tolerate no new colonization in the new world.

During the American Civil War, many European powers would have liked to have intervened on behalf of the Confederate States, given a long contempt for and animosity toward the United States. The English PM, Palmerston, was a rabid hater of the United States, and publicly scorned Lincoln and Seward. Nevertheless, when USS San Jacinto stopped HMS Trent and took the Confederate agents, Mason and Slidell, Palmerston backed down. During a long career as Foreign Secretary, he had consistently bullied lesser powers with the threat of the Royal Navy, even using such threats to collect private debts for English subjects--but he wouldn't take on the United States Navy--it would have been an expensive and ruinous war, but more than that, it likely would have been political suicide for his ministry. The working class of England idolized Lincoln, and they, along with their French counterparts in the textile industry, not only accepted the economic hardship of the Federal blockade of southern cotton--they refused to work in mills using southern cotton which had already reached England and France. A pre-eminent street politician, and a clueless international politician and diplomat, Louis Bonaparte--the soi disant Napoleon III--would have loved to interfer on behalf of the southern Confederacy, and he couldn't. For precisely the same reasons which paralyzed Palmerston, Napoleon III had to heed the public opinion which made a hero of Lincoln to the working class. Even in the very citadel of reactionary oppression, the Holy Alliance (Prussia, Austria, Russia), the Emperor Alexander emancipated the Russian serfs in honor of the reputation of Lincoln.

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There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse . . . but no more . . . we have become our own worst enemies, and a byword for hegemonic repression.

There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse.

This, despite shameful acts like the Mexican War. When los Estatdos Unidos del Rio de Plata (The Unites States of the River Plate--i.e., Argentina) was threatened with English intervention, American frigates called at Buenos Aires and Mar del Plata. We may not have been a credible threat to the Royal Navy, but it was sufficient to convince the English of the "unwisdom" of such an intervention, and the likely cause thereof. Monroe's 1823 message to Congress (the "State of the Union Address" was once simply a long letter from the President to Congress) was ridiculed in European capitals--but none of them challenged the proposition that the United States would tolerate no new colonization in the new world.

During the American Civil War, many European powers would have liked to have intervened on behalf of the Confederate States, given a long contempt for and animosity toward the United States. The English PM, Palmerston, was a rabid hater of the United States, and publicly scorned Lincoln and Seward. Nevertheless, when USS San Jacinto stopped HMS Trent and took the Confederate agents, Mason and Slidell, Palmerston backed down. During a long career as Foreign Secretary, he had consistently bullied lesser powers with the threat of the Royal Navy, even using such threats to collect private debts for English subjects--but he wouldn't take on the United States Navy--it would have been an expensive and ruinous war, but more than that, it likely would have been political suicide for his ministry. The working class of England idolized Lincoln, and they, along with their French counterparts in the textile industry, not only accepted the economic hardship of the Federal blockade of southern cotton--they refused to work in mills using southern cotton which had already reached England and France. A pre-eminent street politician, and a clueless international politician and diplomat, Louis Bonaparte--the soi disant Napoleon III--would have loved to interfer on behalf of the southern Confederacy, and he couldn't. For precisely the same reasons which paralyzed Palmerston, Napoleon III had to heed the public opinion which made a hero of Lincoln to the working class. Even in the very citadel of reactionary oppression, the Holy Alliance (Prussia, Austria, Russia), the Emperor Alexander emancipated the Russian serfs in honor of the reputation of Lincoln.

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There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse . . . but no more . . . we have become our own worst enemies, and a byword for hegemonic repression.

There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse.

This, despite shameful acts like the Mexican War. When los Estatdos Unidos del Rio de Plata (The Unites States of the River Plate--i.e., Argentina) was threatened with English intervention, American frigates called at Buenos Aires and Mar del Plata. We may not have been a credible threat to the Royal Navy, but it was sufficient to convince the English of the "unwisdom" of such an intervention, and the likely cause thereof. Monroe's 1823 message to Congress (the "State of the Union Address" was once simply a long letter from the President to Congress) was ridiculed in European capitals--but none of them challenged the proposition that the United States would tolerate no new colonization in the new world.

During the American Civil War, many European powers would have liked to have intervened on behalf of the Confederate States, given a long contempt for and animosity toward the United States. The English PM, Palmerston, was a rabid hater of the United States, and publicly scorned Lincoln and Seward. Nevertheless, when USS San Jacinto stopped HMS Trent and took the Confederate agents, Mason and Slidell, Palmerston backed down. During a long career as Foreign Secretary, he had consistently bullied lesser powers with the threat of the Royal Navy, even using such threats to collect private debts for English subjects--but he wouldn't take on the United States Navy--it would have been an expensive and ruinous war, but more than that, it likely would have been political suicide for his ministry. The working class of England idolized Lincoln, and they, along with their French counterparts in the textile industry, not only accepted the economic hardship of the Federal blockade of southern cotton--they refused to work in mills using southern cotton which had already reached England and France. A pre-eminent street politician, and a clueless international politician and diplomat, Louis Bonaparte--the soi disant Napoleon III--would have loved to interfer on behalf of the southern Confederacy, and he couldn't. For precisely the same reasons which paralyzed Palmerston, Napoleon III had to heed the public opinion which made a hero of Lincoln to the working class. Even in the very citadel of reactionary oppression, the Holy Alliance (Prussia, Austria, Russia), the Emperor Alexander emancipated the Russian serfs in honor of the reputation of Lincoln.

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There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse . . . but no more . . . we have become our own worst enemies, and a byword for hegemonic repression.

There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse.

This, despite shameful acts like the Mexican War. When los Estatdos Unidos del Rio de Plata (The Unites States of the River Plate--i.e., Argentina) was threatened with English intervention, American frigates called at Buenos Aires and Mar del Plata. We may not have been a credible threat to the Royal Navy, but it was sufficient to convince the English of the "unwisdom" of such an intervention, and the likely cause thereof. Monroe's 1823 message to Congress (the "State of the Union Address" was once simply a long letter from the President to Congress) was ridiculed in European capitals--but none of them challenged the proposition that the United States would tolerate no new colonization in the new world.

During the American Civil War, many European powers would have liked to have intervened on behalf of the Confederate States, given a long contempt for and animosity toward the United States. The English PM, Palmerston, was a rabid hater of the United States, and publicly scorned Lincoln and Seward. Nevertheless, when USS San Jacinto stopped HMS Trent and took the Confederate agents, Mason and Slidell, Palmerston backed down. During a long career as Foreign Secretary, he had consistently bullied lesser powers with the threat of the Royal Navy, even using such threats to collect private debts for English subjects--but he wouldn't take on the United States Navy--it would have been an expensive and ruinous war, but more than that, it likely would have been political suicide for his ministry. The working class of England idolized Lincoln, and they, along with their French counterparts in the textile industry, not only accepted the economic hardship of the Federal blockade of southern cotton--they refused to work in mills using southern cotton which had already reached England and France. A pre-eminent street politician, and a clueless international politician and diplomat, Louis Bonaparte--the soi disant Napoleon III--would have loved to interfer on behalf of the southern Confederacy, and he couldn't. For precisely the same reasons which paralyzed Palmerston, Napoleon III had to heed the public opinion which made a hero of Lincoln to the working class. Even in the very citadel of reactionary oppression, the Holy Alliance (Prussia, Austria, Russia), the Emperor Alexander emancipated the Russian serfs in honor of the reputation of Lincoln.

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There was a time when the United States was seen in the world as the home of democracy and a bulwark in the world against the pretensions and usurpations of oligarcic and monarchical governments with their long histories of repression and abuse . . . but no more . . . we have become our own worst enemies, and a byword for hegemonic repression.

Well, whenever i opened this thread, in any manner, i could not find my post. However, i just clicked on the "post a reply" button, and under the rubric "Topic Review," i see multiple copies of my post. I don't apologize for that, and won't do anymore. I am not responsible for the inability of this site to show my work, and far from being apologetic, i'm exasperated that i do so much careful work and can't know if i'm getting through or not.

If I may address you as Set, exactly the same thing happened with my post. Anyway, here is an interesting research paper titled. "A Comparison of the Lethality of State and Non-state Terrorism" by Gregory G. Holyk at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:2p8JCwiHXOEJ:www.politicsandgovernment.ilstu.edu/conference/confinalupl/2005finals/Holyk2005.doc+gregory+g+holyk&hl=en&client=firefox-a