Evidence Of US Use Of Chemical Weapons On Iraqi Civilians...

Hard to watch............

Man's inhumanity to man....................

Did you guys see the video of Daniel Pearls beheading? How about the one of the people jumping off the top of the world trade center?

I hope you are equally as moved.

Mcgentrix, how Ugly American of you. What does this war crime have to do with 911 or Daniel Pearl? Your insinuation that we who are horrified by American atrocities are not equally horrified by 911 is typical Bushit. Not only do you condone war crimes but you pretend you're on the high moral ground as well. Typical Bushit. No wonder you Bushies have lost the hearts and minds of the American people.

"how Ugly American of you."?

This "war crime" you speak of... what is it? Explain to me how I have condoned it.

I brought it up because people seem to forget these things when they speak of "Man's inhumanity to man...................."

Muslim extremeists seem to get a free pass when it comes to inhumanity. Why is that? Why to the lefties on A2K always ignore the inhumanity demonstrated by this growing group of thugs around the world, yet hold nothing back in pointing out how evil the Americans are?

We are in a war. We must do everything in our power to win it and if that means bombing the crap out of terrorist strongholds, then so be it.

You ask me, a MOAB would have been far more effective.

After watching the video, I can see why as atated by our soldier:

1. By the time they got to Fallougha, any male with a GUN was a target.
2. Kids as young as 10 were shooting at us.

So I can see why there is outrage. OUR SOLDIERS should have been the one's killed by these so called civilians. That would have made you happy, I suppose.

Is this a joke? The first two minutes of the so called "video" are the output of a game, Wing Commander or something.

Every enemy we fight plays the game of "how to make the Americans look bad". They fight from schools, mosques, churches, and neighborhoods filled with women and children.

Screw them.

The US could drop a series of nukes on various cities and some of the folks above would find easy justification for the act. That's the way of things in modern America.

We don't know yet whether the accounts are true or accurate, but attention is quickly swivelling to the incident and we will find out.

If false, Karen Hughes will bake some cookies for Muslims. If true, Karen Hughes will bake some cookies for Muslims.

Fallujah - The Hidden Massacre

Veteran admits: Bodies melted away before us.

Shocking revelation RAI News 24.


WARNING

This video contains images that depict the reality and horror of war.

It should only be viewed by a mature audience

CLICK HERE

As pointed out in the first link, this is an old story. First reported over a year ago. The military first denied use of any napalm then were forced to admit it but claimed it wasn't the same as used in Vietnam. It was made with kerosene instead of gasoline.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030810-napalm-iraq01.htm

This has to be the funniest defense yet, cjsha.

Yeah, the shots from Vietnam were a video game. We never actually used napalm in Vietnam. No one ever won a pulitzer prize for their photo of a naked vietnamese child running with napalm burns. It was all a video game.

We all know a video game would never use actual footage in it. Why would a video game based on real events possibly use real footage? No reason to. Graphics produced by computers are so much more real than reality. Its amazing how realisitic the burns can look when computer generated.

Computer-generated burns. Computer-generated President. It's a brave new world.

What does the use of napalm in Vientnam have to do with this thread?

Did anyone actually watch the first two minutes? Some old and well known footage from Vietnam, then about 90 seconds of video game images.

just some links you might be interested in:

the independent news broadcast Democracy NOW! today, nov 8, played excerpts from the documentary and hosted a discussion including the producer of the RAI piece, the US soldier who is interviewed in the documentary and a pentagon spokesperson. you can view a RealVideo stream on their site (they've also got a higher quality torrent on their site)

you can find the blog of the soldier interviewed in the piece here: http://www.ftssoldier.blogspot.com/

the documentary itself can be downloaded here (40MB LQ, it's a rip from one of those webstreams that were already posted above, but it's sometimes good to have it stored locally): http://www.chris-floyd.com/fallujah/fallujah_ING.wmv

yes indeed, cut off one guys head and that makes it okay to chemically kill many.

You're a real prince.

What happened to Daniel Pearl was terrible but once again, THAT'S NOT THE SUBJECT OF THIS POST, and one atrocity does not make another okay.

I realize you could care less.

I agree with blatham, Bush could drop a nuke...

lodp, thanks for the links. I found a little bit here

McG
I did see the video of Daniel Pearls beheading and some of the other beheadings. I also saw people falling from the WTC's. And yes, they were equally disgusting. For what it's worth I was equally moved. After Viet Nam quite frankly I'm tired of war and killing. I guess in my old age I've turned into a pacifist.

Lets get something straight, napalm and white phosphorus are NOT 'chemical weapons' and the title of the thread is both misleading and more than a bit partisan. The video, while horrific, is trying to make it appear that the U.S. is dropping something other than WP (White Phosphorus) or Napalm upon the people of Iraq. This, while making a great fairy tale, is false.

For a better definition of what Chemical Weapons are go to:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/cw/intro.htm

Napalm
Napalm is a mixture of benzene (21%), gasoline (33%), and polystyrene (46%). Benzene is a normal component of gasoline (about 2%). The gasoline used in napalm is the same leaded or unleaded gas that is used in automobiles.

Red and White Phosphorus
a. At ordinary temperatures, white phosphorus (WP) is a solid which can be handled safely under water. When dry, it burns fiercely in air, producing a dense white smoke. Fragments of melted particles of the burning substance may become embedded in the skin of persons close to a bursting projectile, producing burns which are multiple, deep and variable in size. The fragments continue to burn unless oxygen is excluded by flooding or smothering.

b. WP may be used to produce a hot dense white smoke composed of particles of phosphorus pentoxide which are converted by moist air to droplets of phosphoric acid. The smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. Field concentrations of the smoke are usually harmless although they may cause temporary irritation to the eyes, nose or throat. The respirator provides adequate protection against white phosphorus smoke.

c. In an artillery projectile white phosphorus is contained in felt wedges which ignite immediately upon exposure to air and fall to the ground. Up to 15% of the white phosphorus remains within the charred wedge and can re-ignite if the felt is crushed and the unburned white phosphorus exposed to the atmosphere.

d. Red phosphorus (RP) is not nearly as reactive as white phosphorus. It reacts slowly with atmospheric moisture and the smoke does not produce thermal injury, hence the smoke is less toxic.

These weapons are classified under the term Incendiary Weapons.

Incendiary agents are used to burn supplies, equipment and structures. The main agents in this group are thermite (TH), magnesium, white phosphorus (WP) and combustible hydrocarbons (including oils and thickened gasoline).
Burns may be produced by flame-throwers, oil incendiary bombs which may also contain phosphorus and sodium, and fire bombs containing thickened gasoline. Lung damage from heat and irritating gases may be a complication added to the injuries from incendiaries, especially in confined spaces.

While it is extremely unpleasant to be on the receiving end of either of these weapon types, neither of them is a Chemical Weapon and any reference to them as such, is totally disingenuous.


P.S.: Just FYI for you partisan types, if you claim I am splitting hairs and you DO consider White Phosphous to BE Chemical Weapons and thus Weapons of Mass Destruction, we can all consider President Bush to have told the 100% unvarnished truth about Iraq having WMD's since, to date, the US and British military have captured thousands of White Phosphorus shells from Iraqi ammo dumps all over Iraq.

Just my 2 cents (pre tax)

Thanks for clering that up Fedral. I guess I'm okay with dropping it on civilians now.