"Scooter" Libby Not Only a Perjurer but a Real Sick F***

Unfair to lump all the left together. I happen to hate a lot of the art that got funding... the crucifix in the jar of urine, etc. Totally gross, uncalled for and should never have been funded in my personal and leftist opinion.

I also think that Scooter is scatty and these other examples are disgusting. Yuck. Who buys and reads that? Worse, who publishes it?

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Lol!! Not willing to discuss your own, as usual, then, Tico.

Yeah, Piffka...I am trying to get some sense of context for this stuff...

I don't get why ec he wrote it.

Did he make a career out of this stuff? Did he write lots of it?

Did the bear thing come out of his head, or is he describing something that is actually meant to have happened?

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D -- I have no idea about the answers to these questions. Maybe Amazon research would help, though surely he must have written with a fake name. He couldn't be PROUD of his "efforts."

Oh geez though... such awful images. The man has to be more than a little sick to 1) come up with these ideas; 2) write them down for profit. One can only hope he is totally embarassed about it... and sickened.

Honestly. If someone has this kind of stuff in their head, my advice it to suppress it.... and if you can't... then shoot yourself.

It makes it really, really weird to think that Scooter and our vice, Dick Cheney, are said to have ridden to and from work together nearly every single day. You've got to wonder what they spoke about, what with Cheney's wife writing about lesbian love and Scooter writing the unspeakable. No wonder Cheney looks so twisted.

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Well, I have no problems with lesbian love etc...for me it comes under the rubric of "private life"...if they ain't doing anything illegal, then it is nobody's business.....though a wee tad odd for pollies in the extremely religion affected US of A, methinks...if it was being written once their path was clear. It is especially nobody's damn business re Cheney's wife, she is not a public figure.

Bad writing does not disqualify one from office...

IF, however, one of these people in government was writing lots of that bear type stuff, focusing on the kiddy porn aspects, THAT does worry me.....though again, if it is legal, then I am having trouble differentiating this from the disgusting Clinton witch hunt.

Although, if these people published it, it IS in the public sphere....which makes it a little different.

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Wee tad odd is the understatement of the evening.

I don't care much what other adults do either, as long as I don't have to be involved. If it's private, keep it private, I say. The other is, however, unspeakable and should be repressed. And so I do wonder about those long limo rides.

But I'm shocked and wonder could this really be true? These are part of the core of an executive administration who ostensibly does not believe other people should have private lives, who don't want gay people to marry, and who would surely not want the constitutency that elected them (ie. the "Moral Majority of Religious Right") to be fully aware of this apparent dealing in pornography.

If Hillary Clinton wrote something about lesbian love, the right would be all over her. Shoot, if she wrote about the missionary position in a long-time marriage, she'd probably be damned and defamed.

Having not read (truly not heard) any of this "literature" and with no plans to do so, I can only express my shock.

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Hmmm...oh, I so get your point about their hypocrisy (and I do think ultra conservatives seem to have weirder fetishes and nastier turn ons than others). And you are right, any of this turned up about a progressive, and they would be slurping the slime off their lips before throwing it..

BUT...I still think it concerning to throw too much scheiss..and acting like the far right and religious nuts at their worst.

What is the "unspeakable"? The bear thing?

I would need more context to label it "unspeakable>"

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It'll be fun to see how many "Clinton nookie abhorred by" turn up here to condemn their boys, or defend them, though.

Tico showed up, but wussed out in a mighty show of turning heel and running from the issue.

Slimers, attend! What are you gonna say?

A deafening nothing, I would guess.

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The bear thing, which, as I said I haven't read, was alluded to as a child being forced into a cage with a bear for apparent bestiality. That isn't unspeakable in Australia? That's odd.

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"The Apprentice" is set in a remote Japanese province in the winter of 1903, according to the New Yorker.

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Well, I'm NOT going to read it. No sense in encouraging Scooter that I can think of.

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Piffka wrote:

The bear thing, which, as I said I haven't read, was alluded to as a child being forced into a cage with a bear for apparent bestiality. That isn't unspeakable in Australia? That's odd.

Lol! A remark worthy of Lash or Finn et al.

I won't perform a dance of horror to convince you I find that stuff distasteful, Piffka. How silly.

I work with kids subjected to the human version of the bear cage every day, thank you very much.

Nonetheless, writing about depravity is not necessarily to be depraved.

And I stand by my view that we need to be very careful not not be as bad as they are.

I would need to know more about the context to join in an orgy of condemnation.

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He's a sick F*** alright but I don't see how the phrase makes him one. The man is a delusional fascist but he's not saying in the phrase that that's what he wants to do. He's just saying that's what has been done.

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dlowan wrote:

I won't perform a dance of horror to convince you I find that stuff distasteful, Piffka. How silly.

Well, of course you do....

Quote:

What is the "unspeakable"? The bear thing?

I would need more context to label it "unspeakable>"

And you still haven't labeled it unspeakable.

As I said... I haven't read it. .. so obviously I should have stopped right there.

I'm condemning what I heard because 1) I think it sounds like sick stuff. In my opinion, (Not LASH's NOT FINN's) it is also sick stuff to dwell on it, sick stuff to write about it so others can dwell on it, sick stuff to make money by writing about.

What more context do you need?

I am going to bed.

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Thats some funky sh!t comin from the Conservative side, but the Liberals have organizations that advocate both beastiality and pedophilia. The left will deny it at every turn, but any rational person can see where these group fall on the poitical spectrum.

As far as sick fucs are concerned, Libs win hands down.

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Instigate wrote:

Thats some funky sh!t comin from the Conservative side, but the Liberals have organizations that advocate both beastiality and pedophilia. The left will deny it at every turn, but any rational person can see where these group fall on the poitical spectrum.

As far as sick fucs are concerned, Libs win hands down.[/quote

Upoi misspelled irrational person. LOL

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dlowan wrote:

Well, I have no problems with lesbian love etc...for me it comes under the rubric of "private life"...if they ain't doing anything illegal, then it is nobody's business.....though a wee tad odd for pollies in the extremely religion affected US of A, methinks...if it was being written once their path was clear. It is especially nobody's damn business re Cheney's wife, she is not a public figure.
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Lynn Cheney is most definitely not only a public figure but a politician/activist herself. The point about her writing about lesbian love is hypocrisy. She also wrote in a novel about a Vice-President who has a heart attack while boinking his mistress.

A lot of the conservatives of today, the blind, intolerant, hateful types, are that way because of a deep, emotional void in their life and, in men, sometimes represseed homosexuality.

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twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

Instigate wrote:
Thats some funky sh!t comin from the Conservative side, but the Liberals have organizations that advocate both beastiality and pedophilia. The left will deny it at every turn, but any rational person can see where these group fall on the poitical spectrum.

As far as sick fucs are concerned, Libs win hands down.[/quote

Upoi misspelled irrational person. LOL[/quote]

Should read: You misspelled irrational.

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Piffka wrote:

dlowan wrote:
I won't perform a dance of horror to convince you I find that stuff distasteful, Piffka. How silly.

Well, of course you do....

Quote:
What is the "unspeakable"? The bear thing?

I would need more context to label it "unspeakable>"

And you still haven't labeled it unspeakable.

As I said... I haven't read it. .. so obviously I should have stopped right there.

I'm condemning what I heard because 1) I think it sounds like sick stuff. In my opinion, (Not LASH's NOT FINN's) it is also sick stuff to dwell on it, sick stuff to write about it so others can dwell on it, sick stuff to make money by writing about.

What more context do you need?

I am going to bed.

Lol again, Piffka.

My comment about the "comment worthy of" was directed to the style of your "argument"..ie the "Isn't that considered unspeakable in Australia, how odd" thing. That is, if I understood you correctly, of the same style of attack as "If you mention the torture in American prisons you dishonour the troops, or you are a traitor" etc. Or, if you do not think as I dom, then you are sick/have bad morals etc....ie tarring dissent from your point of view as evil or insufficuiently moral. I still say it is silly.

I have no idea why you are so hung up on "unspeakable", and I am not, as I said, going to do a dance for you about how unspeakable I find something.

I get to look at court files and I have seen photos of kids being raped with guns, and forced into bestilaity. I don't find much "unspeakable"....I get to speak about it all the time.

But I agree, such behaviour towards children is immoral, disgusting and deeply criminal.

I still say writing about it is not the same as doing it, and I do not know about the context of this man's writings.

I find Cheney an abhorrent man for all sorts of reasons, and this stuff does not improve my view of him.

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twin_peaks_nikki wrote:

dlowan wrote:
Well, I have no problems with lesbian love etc...for me it comes under the rubric of "private life"...if they ain't doing anything illegal, then it is nobody's business.....though a wee tad odd for pollies in the extremely religion affected US of A, methinks...if it was being written once their path was clear. It is especially nobody's damn business re Cheney's wife, she is not a public figure.
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Lynn Cheney is most definitely not only a public figure but a politician/activist herself. The point about her writing about lesbian love is hypocrisy. She also wrote in a novel about a Vice-President who has a heart attack while boinking his mistress.

A lot of the conservatives of today, the blind, intolerant, hateful types, are that way because of a deep, emotional void in their life and, in men, sometimes represseed homosexuality.

The hypocrisy aspect, if she and Cheney oppose homosexual rights in their public lives, is very relevant.

Do they do so?

Not sure where the heart attack thing draws your wrath.....it is a not so uncommon form of death...especially for rich and powerful men!

Your explanation for the nastiness of ultra conservatives is moot.

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God, I hate this new editing thing....I can't correct typos!

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