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Atheists... Your life is pointless

 
 
Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 01:17 pm
And i didn't evade your question, dick breath. I answered it. You just didn't like the answer because you have no response for it, other than to babble about talking computers.
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igm
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 01:23 pm
@Setanta,
Setanta wrote:

So yeah, i make no bones about stating what a nasty little f*ck you are.

I'll 'not' take your word for that.. if you don't mind.. I'll let others make up their own minds... you are truly a horrid person to people you don't like... aren't you?

Time for you to go off to some 'jokey' thread to let everyone else you don't hate, know what a 'fun' chap you are...
Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 01:24 pm
@igm,
Sure ass wipe, whatever you say.

Don't have an answer for the proof i offered, do you?
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XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:29 pm
@spendius,
Quote:
What you should be concerned about Spade is the fact that Setanta is ready and willing, eager even, to engage with you and he steers away from my posts with very great care.

Why should I honestly be concerned about that?
MattDavis
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:40 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Spade, Igm, anyone else who may be following this dreadful thread,

I don't understand. Why even bother interacting with someone who by all accounts, at least this thread, has demonstrated no willingness to participate in discussion.

Yes. Setanta wants to piss on the leg of anyone who invades his territory.
Don't let him.
One little click... [ignore user].

You are just feeding into his tantrums, and the cost to everyone else is seeing one half of a childish debate.
I would like to see this thread return to the actual subject at hand.

Can you imagine any new user wanting to participate in this pettiness?
XXSpadeMasterXX
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:50 pm
@MattDavis,
I think that that is a valid point...What would you like to discuss mate?
spendius
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:52 pm
@XXSpadeMasterXX,
Quote:
Why should I honestly be concerned about that?


I would be. It demonstrates the simplicity of your arguments. And the ease with which they can be confronted.

I have been very gentle with you. Would you like me to confront your arguments.

You're a heretic coming the usual line of telling them what they want to hear: namely that they can be Christians without the discipline in regard to sexual matters and needn't accept the authority of the Church. They just have to love everybody and they are saved.
Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:52 pm
You are just puking up condemnatory language with a specific bias. You allege that i am unwilling to engage in a discussion. This is what i wrote:

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Life is its own justification. One doesn't need a big, magic sky daddy to give a point to one's life.


This is germane to the topic of the thread. Spade decided to engage that remark, and we have been discussing it. Now you come along playing the sanctimonious, holier than thou sheriff of this thread. Several pages back, Spade said that i am nasty. I hadn't called him any names, but he felt moved to say that. Just recently, he has said that i am vindictive. Once again, i hadn't called him any names. I freely admit that i've bad-mouthed Igm, whom i despise. He's been peeing in his pants because i haven't shown up in his dualism thread, which he stared because of remarks i had made elsewhere.

And now you show up bad-mouthing me. I don't know why you have a grudge against me, and i don't care. I made a statement, it started a discussion. That discussion proceeded reasonably enough, apart from Spade deciding to tell me i'm vindictive. Now you show up to libel me as though i were the villain in the piece. Get a grip, and grow up.
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Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:53 pm
Reset.

Life is its own justification. One doesn't need a big, magic sky daddy to give a point to one's life.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 02:54 pm
@MattDavis,
It just seems to me that anyone suggesting that atheists--or any other non-theists--somehow are living a life that is pointless (as opposed to theists who are living a life that has "a point" to it)...

...is just asserting that for its insult value.

Whether or not there is a "point" to life really is an exercise in semantics.

But if the connotation of the thread title is meant to be "a non-theist's life is less fulfilling, rewarding, and meaningful than that of a theist"...the assertion is intended as an insult, nothing more.

So in a sense, the thread has been insulting from its inception.

It deserves the contempt so many have heaped upon it.

Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:03 pm
@Frank Apisa,
John Creasy showed up at the end of the period here that i think of as the religious wars. I have no doubt that he intended this as an insult, and a provocation. My initial response was that i'd respond, but what's the point. That's because i no longer took Creasy seriously. People like Spade have shown up to push the theist point of view; but lots more atheists, or alleged atheists, have shown up to rant at someone who has not posted in years. My simple statement above has been my response to this kind of thing for years now.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:04 pm
@Frank Apisa,
Frank Apisa wrote:

It just seems to me that anyone suggesting that atheists--or any other non-theists--somehow are living a life that is pointless (as opposed to theists who are living a life that has "a point" to it)...


I don't know, as gameshows go it's not too bad.

Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:20 pm
@Setanta,
If he gets up-dates--or posting notification...he must be wondering what in hell is going on here!
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:25 pm
@izzythepush,
I actually watched that video.

I probably will never watch another posted in this forum.

Since I wasted three minutes and six seconds of my life viewing it...would you mind telling me what you are trying to illustrate?
Setanta
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:28 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I don't know, i rather think Creasy would be pleased . . .
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MattDavis
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:30 pm
@Frank Apisa,
I agree that the question of purpose and the question of God are related.
However, it is certainly possible to hold a positions granting either a deity or a purpose independent of each other.
An assumption of a deity does not escape the problem of purpose without additional assumptions about the attributes and "personality" of the deity.

An assumption of no deity does not make the question of purpose an easy one however.
I think the OP was meant to be insulting leveling the "charge" of nihilism, but nihilism is a very important question.
Albert Camus considers it THE question of philosophy.
izzythepush
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:42 pm
@MattDavis,
MattDavis wrote:
Albert Camus considers it THE question of philosophy.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdbLqOXmJ04[/url]

'Everything I know about morality and the obligations of men, I owe it to football.' Camus.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41855000/jpg/_41855878_camusshirt203.jpg
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Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:43 pm
@MattDavis,
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Re: Frank Apisa (Post 5271490)
I agree that the question of purpose and the question of God are related.

MAY be related…or CAN be related. The way you phrased it, it appears you are suggesting that they are of necessity related.

There can be purpose to life with a GOD; there can be purpose to life without gods; there can be a GOD—without the necessity of that GOD assigning purpose to life…and of course, if there are no gods…there is no necessity of purpose.

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However, it is certainly possible to hold a positions granting either a deity or a purpose independent of each other.

Without a doubt…and much easier, I would suggest, than the alternative.

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An assumption of a deity does not escape the problem of purpose without additional assumptions about the attributes and "personality" of the deity.

Not sure what you mean here. The comment seems to stem from the fact that you see the question of “purpose” and “a god” as being necessarily related.

I don’t.

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An assumption of no deity does not make the question of purpose an easy one however.


With a god or without a god…the question of purpose, in my opinion, is tremendously complicated and may well be beyond our capability to understand or appreciate.

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I think the OP was meant to be insulting leveling the "charge" of nihilism, but nihilism is a very important question.


I think the OP was meant to be insulting period.

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Albert Camus considers it THE question of philosophy.


Good for him.

As you are probably guessing by now, I am not particularly interested in the considerations of philosophers on questions like this. I prefer hearing what you think…or Spade thinks…or Setanta, Izzy, igm…or any of the others.

What the philosophers thought was of significance to me when I was in school, but I now realize that what guys like you and the others is more interesting.

izzythepush
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:43 pm
@Frank Apisa,
The gameshow is called pointless, it's quite popular. Sorry.
Frank Apisa
 
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Wed 6 Mar, 2013 03:45 pm
@izzythepush,
I'm a sucker for that non-American accent you Brits use...and when I hear it I am almost hypnotized. That clip shows what might be an interesting show...but I did not know who the hell the singer was...or anything about the lyrics.

The "wild guess"...was one hell of a guess!
 

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