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Snake vs. Gator

 
 
Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 01:56 pm
I guess there is a picture of this but i can't find one that you don't have to be a registered user to view. If anybody can find one, be sure to post it.

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It's a dead heat
Clash of exotic python, native species raises concerns over food chain in Everglades

By Curtis Morgan
Knight Ridder/Tribune
Published October 6, 2005

MIAMI -- A meeting between two of the largest and fiercest predators in the Everglades--a Burmese python and an American alligator--ended in a scene as rare as it was bizarre.

The 13-foot snake and 6-foot gator both wound up dead, locked so gruesomely it is hard to make heads, tails or any other body part of either creature.

When the carcasses were found last week in an isolated marsh in Everglades National Park, the gator's tail and hind legs protruded from the ruptured gut of a python, which had swallowed it whole.

For scientists, exactly how the clash occurred is a compelling curiosity. More important, the encounter provides evidence that giant exotic snakes not only have invaded the Everglades but also could challenge the native gator for a perch atop the food chain.

"It's just off-the-charts absurd to think that this kind of animal, a significant top-of-the-pyramid kind of predator in its native land, is trying to make a living in South Florida," said park biologist Skip Snow, who has tracked the snakes' spread.

Likely abandoned by pet owners, pythons have been seen in the Everglades since the 1980s. But in the last two years alone, Snow has documented 156 python captures, a surge that has convinced biologists the snakes are multiplying in the wild.

The growing population of such large predators also raises questions about threats to native species and whether anything indigenous--gators, for starters--might be able to consume and potentially control the large snake species.

The latest find was spotted floating in a spike rush marsh on Sept. 26 by Michael Barron, a helicopter pilot flying park researchers to tree islands. Snow examined it the next day.

The discovery indicates that the snakes can live anywhere in the Everglades, Snow said. Most earlier finds have been on park fringes, roads or parking lots.

It also confirmed that snakes and gators have an appetite for each other.

Earlier this year, Snow documented a gator killing and eating a python. The latest encounter showed that a hungry adult snake will attempt to eat a sizable gator.

Frank Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife professor and expert on crocodiles and gators in the Everglades, said size would probably dictate which species would win most encounters, and scientists could only speculate why this one ended in double deaths.

Snow's detailed field notes provide some evidence the snake was the attacker: There were wounds on the gator's head and "large wads of alligator skin" in what remained of the snake's digestive tract.
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 02:43 pm
I saw that, JP, Can you believe they both lost? I don't think the news had a picture of the situation, but I did look up the python on the net.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 04:11 pm
I guess there is a picture in the Chicago Trib today. I'll see if I can pick one up on the way home tonight.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 04:19 pm
The Duel
The Gingham Dog and the Calico Cat


by Eugene Field



The gingham dog and the calico cat
Side by side on the table sat;
'Twas half-past twelve, and (what do you think!)
Nor one nor t'other had slept a wink!
The old Dutch clock and the Chinese plate
Appeared to know as sure as fate
There was going to be a terrible spat.

(I wasn't there; I simply state
What was told to me by the Chinese plate!)

The gingham dog went " Bow-wow-wow!"
And the calico cat replied "Me-ow!"
The air was littered,an hour or so,
With bits of gingham and calico,
While the old Dutch clock in the chimney place
Up with it hands before its face,
For it always dreaded a family row!

(Now mind: I'm only telling you
What the old Dutch clock declares is true!)

The Chinese plate looked very blue,
And wailed,"Oh dear! What shall we do!"
But the gingham dog and the calico cat
Wallowed this way and tumbled that,
Employing every tooth and claw
In the awfullest way you ever saw-
And oh! how the gingham and calico flew!

(Don't fancy I exaggerate!
I got my news from the Chinese plate!)

Next morning where the two had sat
They found no trace of dog or cat;
And some folks think unto this day
That burglars stole the pair away!
But the truth about the cat and pup
Is this: they ate each other up!
Now what do you really think of that!

(The old Dutch clock, it told me so,
And that is how I came to know.)
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 04:25 pm
If the clock told you, it must be true.
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:03 pm
I found the picture, JP, but I could paste it. I'll try again later.

(love that old poem, Noddy)
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Letty
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:04 pm
Make that could NOT
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:11 pm
Ew.

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2005/10/05/PH2005100501508.jpg
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satt fs
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:17 pm
One must be careful about what one takes for a meal so as not to have a trouble in the stomach.
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jpinMilwaukee
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:31 pm
Thanks Soz. That is a pretty crazy situation.
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:36 pm
I can't make head nor tail out of that picture.








Sorry.
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roger
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 06:14 pm
Guess the snake's eyes were bigger than its stomach.

Very appropriate, Noddy.
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Noddy24
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 06:46 pm
Eugene Field's nursery beasts were certainly tidier, leaving no traces of combat.
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Reyn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 08:56 pm
This seems to me to be a good reason to ban the ownerhip of exotic "pets". How many times have we heard of former owners of these "pets" releasing them into the wild when they either grow tired of them, or they grow too large.

Just a quick example. In a lake that we have here in our main local park, you can often see turtles. These turtles are not native to this area.
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sozobe
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 08:57 pm
Our first week in L.A., we read about a little fluffy doggy (maltese, maybe) being swallowed by an escaped exotic snake. It seemed like a fitting introduction to the place. (I vaguely remember something about the dogs' owner whapping the snake with a purse to no avail... not funny, but...)
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Reyn
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2005 07:30 am
Yes, exactly. I feel it's very irresponsible to release these no longer wanted "pets" into the wild where they can potentially reek havoc.

Of course, I feel the same way about abandoned cats and dogs. My wife and daughter do some volunteer work for a no-kill shelter and the stories that are brought home about some animals. Shocked
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