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Travelling in Europe - Meals and Transportation

 
 
el pohl
 
Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2005 04:56 pm
People of the world, it is in my plans to visit Euope for as long as possible. I will be leaving from San Diego and arriving most surely in Madrid in mid-December/early January. I suppose 15-20 days is fine. My family will join me for about a week, after that, I'm off to meet A2K partner JoeFX. The burning questions are:

- What is the cheapest (while being safe of course) way of travelling within Europe? Im not thinking about going very very far away, just the traditional: Spain, Italy, France, and probably London and Germany if theres still something in my pocket. Eurorail is somewhat expensive, although pretty.

- How much would I need to spend if I plan on having 2 meals a day? Nothing fancy, but nothing canned-tuna like either.

Thank you in advance...
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CalamityJane
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2005 05:43 pm
Check out the international Youth Hostels for a cheap stay
plus a cheap meal http://www.hihostels.com/openHome.do

As for the Eurorail, you could get a special rate for selected
cities only or check out cheap flights within Europe.
Air Europa, www.air-europa.com.
Aer Lingus, www.aerlingus.com.
British Midland: 800-788-0555, in Britain 011-870-607-0555. www.flybmi.com.
Cheap Flights: www.cheapflights.co.uk.
easyJet, www.easyjet.com.
Europe by Air Pass: 888-387-2479, www.europebyair.com.
Eurostar Chunnel Train: 800-EUROSTAR, www.eurostar.com.
Go, www.gofly.com.
Spanair, www.spanair.com.
Ryanair: 011-353-1-609-7800, www.ryanair.ie.
Virgin Express: 011-32-2-752-0505, www.virgin-express.com.

Or check out travel routes by bus http://www.eurolines.com/
they are cheaper than the Eurotrains.
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2005 06:50 pm
Im doing the same thing in April, as Im going for a month
Im just going to fly to each country, as its much cheaper and quicker for the limited amount of time I have.
Im looking at staying in B&B's and doing a lot of research on the net.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2005 10:54 pm
Wow Jane! Youre gonna keep me busy with all those links, but they will sure prove worthy, thanks!

KiwiChic: April huh? Better climate for sure. Yeah, seems that quick and cheap are the keywords here. I agree with the hostels. How much does the food cost though?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 3 Oct, 2005 11:10 pm
KiwiChic has the right idea. Flights are cheap when you're in Europe. Many of the airports in Europe has train connections on the premise.

If you stay away from the tourist restaurants, you can probably eat fairly well at US prices. The Euro buys much more in Germany than it does in many other destinations. London is very, very expensive. A coffee and donut will cost about US$6.50. It's more reasonable outside of London if you must visit the UK.

While in Madrid, don't carry your wallet in your pocket. Always wear a money belt underneath your clothes. And don't display your money in public. If you go to Madrid, spend some time in Barcelona - a more tourist friendly town which feels liike a different country.

Public transportation in Europe is excellent. Learn to use the underground, train and bus systems. They're easy to use and cheap. If you're planning to spend more than a few days in one town, look for a long-term transportation pass. They're usually good for all transportation modes including boats.

Have a fun and safe journey.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Tue 4 Oct, 2005 10:50 pm
Ahh... I thought that it would be more expensive to eat! Wonderfull! Train also seems the way to go.

I really appreciate all your insight fellow A2K'ers, and I will gladly welcome more if there is, for it will surely help!
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 04:06 pm
What I did last time when I went to England , Ireland etc I just had a huge breakfast from the B&B and I just grabbed a whole lot of fruit and croissants on my way out and threw it in my back pack for lunch, for dinner I went to the local pub and had a cheap meal...so thats what I will be looking at doing again, in London the take aways were priced fairly reasonable.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 04:08 pm
KiwiChic, When were you in London the last time?
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 08:01 pm
a couple of years ago...why?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 08:13 pm
The reason I asked was because the cost of everything in London has gone up about 30 percent since you last visited. In April of 2003, a cup of coffee and donut cost about US$5.00. It now (was in London in April of this year) costs about $6.50.
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 09:55 pm
I dont drink coffee lol, but I recall pub dinners around 7.00 pound plus a free pint of lager! the meals were huge....3.00 pounds for a box of chicken and chips from some take away place somewhere in Earls Court that I cant remember... but like anywhere the prices will increase, oh well I will let you know what I find.
I did find groceries quite cheap from a corner store, but I prefer to have someone else do the cooking for me Very Happy
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 10:17 pm
If you find that 3. pound box of chicken and chips in London, please let us know. Wink
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 10:47 pm
Seems really that air fares are cheaper in Europe than e.g. in the USA.

But: you always have to consider
that
- you have to book very early to get that price,
- usually the airports are more in rural regions, so it takes you nearly the same money to get to the bigger places what you paid for the ticket
- travel cards for railways aren't that expensive.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 11:02 pm
Woah, and I thought London was one of THE most expensive places in the old continent... hopefully ill fine out!

Yeah, probably Ill just rail my way into each country. Does anyone of you know if I need to have an individual VISA for each country?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 11:19 pm
In Europe, no. Just carry your passport.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Mon 10 Oct, 2005 11:42 pm
el_pohl wrote:
Does anyone of you know if I need to have an individual VISA for each country?


Provided you are not going to stay longer than three months and you are not going to do any paid or self-employed work, you don't need a visa for any of the EU countries.
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el pohl
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 12:49 am
Hurray! Imagine that system in America... I wonder why it wouldnt work haha.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 05:19 am
Ehem, that's for people like from Mexico, USA, Japan, Canada, Australia ...

We travel in Europe usually just with an ID-card (I don't have a passport since about 20 years). Between the Schengen countries, there's (usually) no border control at all.
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:06 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
If you find that 3. pound box of chicken and chips in London, please let us know. Wink

When were you there last?...
Yeah no worries about the Chicken and chips, will let you know in June when I get back! Laughing

Im sure there is a hop on hop off bus which travels through different EU countries ..here it is check this out el
http://studenttravel.about.com/od/gettingaroundthere/a/busabout.htm
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 11 Oct, 2005 03:21 pm
I would suggest, you have a look at the rgularily running EUROLINES as well, since Busabout Europe only runs during the summer period and doesn't connect so many cities.
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