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What if: Alexander never died in Babylon?

 
 
Reply Sun 25 Sep, 2005 04:57 pm
What if Alexander never died in Babylon? What would he have done??
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 08:36 pm
Gone on to conquer more countries and kill more people.

"He is known as Alexander the Great because he killed more people of more different kinds than any other man of his time."
Will Cuppy, The Decline and Fall of Practically Everybody. [1950], p. 41
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 08:52 pm
Yes I've also heard that he was one of the greatest mass murderors of all time, well for his time.. He had plans to subdue the Arabians.. that would have failed..
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2005 02:55 am
Who knows? The Arabs weren't very organized back then. They're not really organized now, either; if they were, we wouldn't have Saydi Arabia and Yemen and Kuwai and the Arab Emirates etc. But they were even less organized back then, just disparate groups of desert-dwelling nomads. Alexander had little difficulty in overcoming a kindred tribe -- the Hebrews.
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2005 08:42 am
eventually would he have turned toward carthage and finally rome???
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2005 03:17 pm
I'm not sure at what stage of development Carthage was at that time in history. Rome was still a small kingdom, ruled by the Tarquin kings who were Etruscan, not Latin, I believe.

Where is Setanta when we need him?
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Wed 28 Sep, 2005 03:52 pm
but no doubt, with all the empire he had, he would have had a huge army which to take carthage.. yep carthage was powerful but the greek syracusian tyrants had succeeded in holding back their expansion plans into Sicily... for centuries...
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DESooner
 
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Reply Sun 2 Oct, 2005 04:59 pm
Milfmaster9 wrote:
Yes I've also heard that he was one of the greatest mass murderors of all time, well for his time.. He had plans to subdue the Arabians.. that would have failed..


What makes him a mass murderer? The fact that he waged war and people died? Maybe they should have surrendered...
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Ellinas
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2005 12:22 pm
Re: What if: Alexander never died in Babylon?
Milfmaster9 wrote:
What if Alexander never died in Babylon? What would he have done??


Reach the moon... Smile Smile Smile
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Wed 5 Oct, 2005 05:15 pm
DESooner wrote:
Milfmaster9 wrote:
Yes I've also heard that he was one of the greatest mass murderors of all time, well for his time.. He had plans to subdue the Arabians.. that would have failed..


What makes him a mass murderer? The fact that he waged war and people died? Maybe they should have surrendered...


Exactly, DES -- "the fact that he waged war and people died." Do you mean to suggest that a war of aggression, waged for no other reason than to acquire more land and subjugate a greater number of people, is in some sense justified? Alexander was a megalomaniac, intent on taking over as much of the world he knew as he could. Alexander, Julius Caesar, Napoleon Bonaparte, Hitler, many others -- they are all mass murderers.
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 04:05 pm
Forgotten Stalin...
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Thu 6 Oct, 2005 05:07 pm
Milfmaster9 wrote:
Forgotten Stalin...


Right. Greatest mass murderer of all time.
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2005 05:44 pm
Rumour has it that Chairman Mao has pipped Stalin to the top of the league of bloodthirsty murderors...
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Merry Andrew
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2005 05:50 pm
Yeah, that may be true. But Mao killed mainly his own Chinese people. Stalin was an equal-opportunity murderer who would exterminate anybody at all, regardless of race, religion, ethnicity or sexual orientation. In the 1930s, particularly at risk were the people closest to him, the ones who had boosted him into power in the first place.
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Milfmaster9
 
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Reply Fri 7 Oct, 2005 06:07 pm
the purges...
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Alexander Masan
 
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Reply Fri 18 Nov, 2005 12:41 am
If he hadn't died in Babylon, then there was a good chance he would have expanded eastwards from Egypt, or from Greece/Macedonia. He was an expansionist, and he hungered for domination of the known world. Unless he were to be assassinated or killed prematurely by some other means, then he would never have stopped until he'd died of old age.

If he had expanded from Egypt, then he could have taken Carthage and on, up to Gibraltar. From there he could have gone on to take Spain, then north and east to take Europe and Rome. Rome and Carthage were just city-states at this time, so they wouldn't have posed much of a threat. From there who knows? He could proceed to take the British Isles, eastern Europe, or he could have chosen to go south into Africa. He had no opposition.

There would be little difference if he had expanded from Greece/Macedonia.

Again, like my argument in the thread concerning Hitler and World War II, these are my views, and my opinions. Not the way it WOULD have happened.
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