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Cults: A Handy Reference Guide - real handy

 
 
dlowan
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 04:33 pm
Foxfyre wrote:
But the fact is that if God exists, He exists whether or not you believe He exists.

For that matter so would aliens.


You miss my point.


Why is a belief in an invisible god to be privileged above a belief in invisible aliens?

Why are subjective but unwitnessed interactions with an invisible god privileged over subljective but unwitnessed interactions with invisible aliens?
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 04:50 pm
it's a money thing Mz Deb, our dollar ($) In God We Trust... doesn't say a damn thing about illegal aliens. Follow the money and you find the christians. Follow illegal aliens and all you find are corn chips, salsa and frijoles.
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BumbleBeeBoogie
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 05:18 pm
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Tue 13 Sep, 2005 05:23 pm
D writes
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Why is a belief in an invisible god to be privileged above a belief in invisible aliens?


I thought the discussion was on cults. I don't know of any cults built up around aliens. Most cults at least give some pretense to be a channel from God. Nevertheless I don't see that any privilege was given to either a belief or non belief in either and neither is pertinent to cults nor pertinent as to whether either exist. (I tried to get another either in there but it just wouldn't fit.)
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 02:52 am
What do you see as the difference between aliens and god?


(Oeprational definition please)
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 04:45 am
A alien has three eyes. God has only one.
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AngeliqueEast
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 04:49 am
LOL
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 08:01 am
Well, in my opinion, out of the billions of objects in the universe, the probability that some of them sustain life seems quite good. Whatever life is sustained there would be alien to Earth. In my view of the universe however, those aliens would have the same God that Earth has. And that is the first of many differences. One would be God. The other would not.

There are no doubt some cults around headed by somebody who believes he communes with aliens who have seen God or some such as that.

It is often those who don't believe in anything that get sucked into the cults however. They are far more vulnerable than are those with a strong religious faith.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 09:13 am
Foxfyre wrote:
Well, in my opinion, out of the billions of objects in the universe, the probability that some of them sustain life seems quite good. Whatever life is sustained there would be alien to Earth. In my view of the universe however, those aliens would have the same God that Earth has. And that is the first of many differences. One would be God. The other would not.

There are no doubt some cults around headed by somebody who believes he communes with aliens who have seen God or some such as that.

It is often those who don't believe in anything that get sucked into the cults however. They are far more vulnerable than are those with a strong religious faith.



Grrrr.


I had the longest post in response about to get clicked, and I closed my browser by mistake!!!!


I cannot bear to do it all again now, it is way late, but I will poke you tomorrow.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:05 am
dlowan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well, in my opinion, out of the billions of objects in the universe, the probability that some of them sustain life seems quite good. Whatever life is sustained there would be alien to Earth. In my view of the universe however, those aliens would have the same God that Earth has. And that is the first of many differences. One would be God. The other would not.

There are no doubt some cults around headed by somebody who believes he communes with aliens who have seen God or some such as that.

It is often those who don't believe in anything that get sucked into the cults however. They are far more vulnerable than are those with a strong religious faith.



Grrrr.


I had the longest post in response about to get clicked, and I closed my browser by mistake!!!!


I cannot bear to do it all again now, it is way late, but I will poke you tomorrow.


Unless God closes your browser again.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:17 am
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It is often those who don't believe in anything that get sucked into the cults however. They are far more vulnerable than are those with a strong religious faith.


I don´t believe this is the case. Many ¨cults¨ (I put this word in quotes because in my opinion it means little more than ¨unpopular religions¨) specifically target people with Christian upbringing. David Koresh, for example, attracted Christians with a theology that used many passages and ideas from the Bible.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:22 am
Ticomaya wrote:
dlowan wrote:
Foxfyre wrote:
Well, in my opinion, out of the billions of objects in the universe, the probability that some of them sustain life seems quite good. Whatever life is sustained there would be alien to Earth. In my view of the universe however, those aliens would have the same God that Earth has. And that is the first of many differences. One would be God. The other would not.

There are no doubt some cults around headed by somebody who believes he communes with aliens who have seen God or some such as that.

It is often those who don't believe in anything that get sucked into the cults however. They are far more vulnerable than are those with a strong religious faith.



Grrrr.


I had the longest post in response about to get clicked, and I closed my browser by mistake!!!!


I cannot bear to do it all again now, it is way late, but I will poke you tomorrow.


Unless God closes your browser again.




I thought she'd be too busy watching sparrows fall to mess with one wee Bunny's browser????? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked




"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, / But in ourselves, that
we are underlings....."
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:25 am
dlowan wrote:
I thought she'd be too busy watching sparrows fall to mess with one wee Bunny's browser????? Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked


Perhaps it's a slow day?
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:26 am
nah.

she has SOMEBODY's side to be on in Iraq.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:28 am
dlowan wrote:
nah.

she has SOMEBODY's side to be on in Iraq.


That's for sure.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:44 am
No it isn't.


That is only a belief.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 10:52 am
Who's really to say? God works in mysterious ways.
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 03:24 pm
As do aliens.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 04:34 pm
My point exactly!!!!

We shall have Fox a sceptic in no time flat at this rate!
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Foxfyre
 
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Reply Wed 14 Sep, 2005 04:56 pm
No, I'm not skeptical about God at all. I just don't pretend to be able to second guess him. I believe in the existence of aliens purely based on the laws of probability, but to the best of my knowledge, I've never met one.

The only thing I'm highly skeptical of is that the two can somehow be connected other than in a Creator-created kind of way.
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