Pelosi: Bush, "Oblivious, dangerous"

Bush replied, according to Pelosi, "What went wrong?"

t Bushis oblivious, detached and dangerous!

I too am curious about exactly what went wrong that action taken by Bush could have prevented.

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I too am curious about exactly what went wrong that action taken by Bush could have prevented.

He didn't provide leadership. He failed to see the threat that the hurricane posted even though he was warned that it could be that bad. He didn't mobilize his own cabinet to respond whatsoever (Cheney was STILL on vacation till yesterday and Condi was busy buying shoes while Bush played the guitar). People need to see a president who is actually doing something about problems.

His appointees to FEMA were of the worst political nature; no previous experience, no reason to appoint them to these highly-paid positions other than the fact that they worked on his campaign. He is responsible for their poor performance.

He has lead the charge to shift our nation's priorities away from critical projects to Security and aggressive wars overseas. There is little doubt that the money spent in Iraq on a daily basis could help save the lives of Katrina victims, if we had it, that is. I have no idea where the money to rebuild is going to come from; we're already massively in debt.

Communications and organization have been horrible. Didn't we spend a huge amount of money after 9/11 to ensure that just this sort of situation could be taken care of with organization? Apparently much of that money was wasted, and noone has to answer for it.

There were, have been, and continue to be a large number of failures, strategic mis-steps, and fiscal idiocies that helped lead to the Katrina disaster. And you don't even want me to start talking about how much Bush supports Global Warming...

Cycloptichorn

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/07/D8CFHLI01.html

"At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

She related that she urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Brown.

"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

"Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added. "

Well, I guess she could not articulate what specificlly went wrong. I also wonder why she did not criticize the local Democratic Mayor as well as the Governor for their inaction?

He didn't provide leadership. He failed to see the threat that the hurricane posted even though he was warned that it could be that bad. He didn't mobilize his own cabinet to respond whatsoever (Cheney was STILL on vacation till yesterday and Condi was busy buying shoes while Bush played the guitar). People need to see a president who is actually doing something about problems.Cycloptichorn

His appointees to FEMA were of the worst political nature; no previous experience, no reason to appoint them to these highly-paid positions other than the fact that they worked on his campaign. He is responsible for their poor performance.Cycloptichorn

He has lead the charge to shift our nation's priorities away from critical projects to Security and aggressive wars overseas. There is little doubt that the money spent in Iraq on a daily basis could help save the lives of Katrina victims, if we had it, that is. I have no idea where the money to rebuild is going to come from; we're already massively in debt.

Communications and organization have been horrible. Didn't we spend a huge amount of money after 9/11 to ensure that just this sort of situation could be taken care of with organization? Apparently much of that money was wasted, and noone has to answer for it.

There were, have been, and continue to be a large number of failures, strategic mis-steps, and fiscal idiocies that helped lead to the Katrina disaster. And you don't even want me to start talking about how much Bush supports Global Warming...

woiyo wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/07/D8CFHLI01.html

"At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

She related that she urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Brown.

"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

"Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added. "

Well, I guess she could not articulate what specificlly went wrong. I also wonder why she did not criticize the local Democratic Mayor as well as the Governor for their inaction?

Because she is a US Congresswoman!!! Local NO politics are beyond her control. When will you denialistas get it???

woiyo wrote:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/07/D8CFHLI01.html

"At a news conference, Pelosi, D-Calif., said Bush's choice for head of the Federal Emergency Management Agency had "absolutely no credentials."

She related that she urged Bush at the White House on Tuesday to fire Brown.

"He said 'Why would I do that?'" Pelosi said.

"'I said because of all that went wrong, of all that didn't go right last week.' And he said 'What didn't go right?'"

"Oblivious, in denial, dangerous," she added. "

Well, I guess she could not articulate what specificlly went wrong. I also wonder why she did not criticize the local Democratic Mayor as well as the Governor for their inaction?

Because she is a US Congresswoman!!! Local NO politics are beyond her control. When will you denialistas get it???

Any response to my post, CR? About things that have gone wrong?

Cycloptichorn

Pelosi told Bush he should fire Brown because of all that went wrong, Bush replied, according to Pelosi, "What went wrong?"

Pelosi just told the media that Bushis oblivious, detached and dangerous!

You go girl, we Baltimore-born, California women can kick some ass!!!

Cycloptichorn wrote:

He didn't provide leadership. He failed to see the threat that the hurricane posted even though he was warned that it could be that bad. He didn't mobilize his own cabinet to respond whatsoever (Cheney was STILL on vacation till yesterday and Condi was busy buying shoes while Bush played the guitar). People need to see a president who is actually doing something about problems.Cycloptichorn

Was he supposed to go down there, wade into the flood waters and give the democratic leaders of NO and LA explicit directions on how to run things? Ok, he didn't. I guess he is at fault for believing democrats in NO and LA know what they are doing.

It isn't just a matter of showing up and telling everyone what to do. It was pretty obvious that FEMA was going to be involved somehow by Mon. afternoon, whether it was in NOLA or Mississippi or Alabama. Bush should have gone into 'danger mode' or whatever the federal equivalent of it is. While the Feds couldn't send in troops or act until requested there is a lot that can be done in either preparation of ground and air forces, or in preparation of media and political forces, of recovery and donation efforts, of asking people to listen to the mayor and get out. Of talking about the disaster for more than a minute in a speech about how great we are doing in Iraq.

As I've said earlier, Bush could have been on top of this one completely and scored a major victory with the American people; but he wasn't, and he didn't. The appearance of non-action during a time of crisis is dangerous for a prez with low ratings already. I don't think people blame Bush for what has went wrong but they aren't exactly talking about what a great job FEMA and the feds and the Admin. have done.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

His appointees to FEMA were of the worst political nature; no previous experience, no reason to appoint them to these highly-paid positions other than the fact that they worked on his campaign. He is responsible for their poor performance.Cycloptichorn

Granted, I don't think his FEMA appointees are the best choices he could have made.

Natch.

Cycloptichorn wrote:

He has lead the charge to shift our nation's priorities away from critical projects to Security and aggressive wars overseas. There is little doubt that the money spent in Iraq on a daily basis could help save the lives of Katrina victims, if we had it, that is. I have no idea where the money to rebuild is going to come from; we're already massively in debt.

Communications and organization have been horrible. Didn't we spend a huge amount of money after 9/11 to ensure that just this sort of situation could be taken care of with organization? Apparently much of that money was wasted, and noone has to answer for it.

There were, have been, and continue to be a large number of failures, strategic mis-steps, and fiscal idiocies that helped lead to the Katrina disaster. And you don't even want me to start talking about how much Bush supports Global Warming...

How would money spent in Iraq had helped to save lives in NO? This is bull and you know it. If people stay in the path of a hurricane, for whatever reason, all the money in the world will not help them. Get real.

I'm not saying that money would have directly saved the lives of people who didn't leave NOLA, and while I think that the money that has been axed from our budgets for rebuilding the Mississippi river coastline over the last then years would have helped, they probably would have died anyways given the force of the storm.

No, I mean, when Bush goes and asks for 51.5 BILLION in aid for this event, where is that money going to come from? Are we just going to pile it on to the massive debt that the War has ran up for us? There's still a 5-billion (at least) dollar a month war going on, in case anyone has forgotten. We can't just keep writing checks and expect things to add up later on....

There is no doubt that w/out the war in Iraq, we'd have more money to rebuild our OWN country. I don't even see how this is arguable.

What communications are possible with everything knocked out by a hurricane? Yep, the locals did not seem to have any communications that lasted any length of time either. But somehow they are not to blame.

Wrong again. There are a lot of people to blame, who apparently never heard the Boy Scout motto.

I can't believe that people are surprised that NOLA didn't have good planning or execution of emergency plans; we ARE talking about the most corrupt city in America, hands down. They deserve a lot of blame.

But it's the job of FEMA and the Nat'l guard to institute communications systems during times of extreme duress. That's what we pay them to do. They failed in many ways in doing this. This needs to be addressed, immediately. Imagine if this had been a terrorist attack instead of a Mother Nature Terrorist attack.

And yep, blame Katrina on global warming. That is bull crap also. There have always been disastrous hurricanes throughout our history. But it makes it easier to blame Bush by claiming global warming (which, according to those who believe in it has been happening long before Bush was in office).

I, unlike you, understand that when you start changing the variables in a closed system (ie our environment) there will undoubtedly be effects. This is a scientific fact; that changing the elements of a closed system leads to change in the patterns of behaviour of that system. There is no reason, other than greed, to believe that the same does not hold true for our environment.

You are correct to point out that I erroneously used the term Global Warming, when the correct term is Climate Instability. My bad.

Guess it depends on whether you hate Bush or not.

Personally, the biggest fault for the loss of life in NO is the local government and their seemingly inadequate plans for evacuating their own citizens when faced with a hurricane of this magnitude.