Being Fat or Smoking: Why is One Worse Than The Other?

I don't think it would be up to me to comment on others' habits that don't directly affect me.

dragon49 wrote:

wait shewolf, can you call me fat at least once a day????? it might help, i'll let you know when you can stop, when i reach my goal weight...haha!!!

Dragon... darling..
put down the damn burger.. U B 2 FAT,,


there.. did that help?

Reyn wrote:

I don't think it would be up to me to comment on others' habits that don't directly affect me.

Actually sug, they DO effect you, in your pocket......

Your insurance premiums, medical costs in general.

Frankly, that's what is going through my mind when I see someone chain smoking or morbidly obese.

some have to do with the thyroid, but the number one disease is lack of education about what is going in peoples mouths.

A 1993 National Institutes of Health expert panel reviewed decades of diet studies and found that between 90 and 95 percent of people regained one-third to two-thirds of any weight lost within a year - and all of it within five years. Doctors have wired patients' jaws closed, inflated plastic balloons inside their stomachs, performed massive excisions of body fat, prescribed amphetamines and large amounts of thyroid hormones, even performed neurosurgery to destroy the hunger centers in the brain's hypothalamus - and still people do not keep the weight off. Jaw wiring, for example, can produce substantial weight loss, and patients who ask for the procedure are as motivated as they come; yet some still end up taking in enough liquid calories through their closed jaws to gain weight, and the others regain it once the wires are removed. We are a species that has evolved to survive starvation, not to resist abundance.

I do offer advice and suggestions if someone I know has self-destructive habits.

Synonymph wrote:

I do offer advice and suggestions if someone I know has self-destructive habits.

Sometimes, I like to watch Lifetime movies with a pint of Ben&Jerry's, and when the sad parts happen, I cut myself to make the pain bleed away. Thoughts?

but it is a new day!

shewolfnm, again, it really doesn't seem to be as simple as that. It could be a matter of telling the 5'2" guy that he could be as good of a basketball player as the 7'2" guy if he only had enough willpower... Not diseases so much as what your body is predisposed to.

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We are a species who have evolved to survive starvation, not resist abundance.
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A 1993 National Institutes of Health expert panel reviewed decades of diet studies and found that between 90 and 95 percent of people regained one-third to two-thirds of any weight lost within a year - and all of it within five years. Doctors have wired patients' jaws closed, inflated plastic balloons inside their stomachs, performed massive excisions of body fat, prescribed amphetamines and large amounts of thyroid hormones, even performed neurosurgery to destroy the hunger centers in the brain's hypothalamus - and still people do not keep the weight off. Jaw wiring, for example, can produce substantial weight loss, and patients who ask for the procedure are as motivated as they come; yet some still end up taking in enough liquid calories through their closed jaws to gain weight, and the others regain it once the wires are removed. We are a species that has evolved to survive starvation, not to resist abundance.

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As in, these people KNOW the danger (I find it condenscending to assume they all don't), and take extraordinary measures, but still can't keep the weight off.

dragon49 wrote:

but it is a new day!

stop talking chunky...