Keep Trump and Friends from Stealing Your House

The Nazi movement was wiped from the earth after WWII only a few fringe right consider Hitler a hero today. The war against Nazis resulted in 6 million deaths. Estimates put the number of deaths by the Christian right witch burnings at 6 million also, whether it was 600,000 of 6 million it was too many. We know the Christian right was still burning witches when they came over here. If the rest of the world came together to wipe out the Nazis, why did they not come together to wipe Christianity off the face of the earth after that abomination? Simple God is responsible for all the good in the world and man is responsible for all the bad with a little help from the man in the red suit.

When the Las Vegas shooting took place, the survivors thanked God that he saved them but what about the fifty lying dead on the ground? Why did he not save them. Did they use his name in vain? Maybe they did not belong to the one true church. Maybe he tossed a coin to decide who lived or died. See how God is credited with the good but is blameless for the bad. God could have at least retaliated by wiping out the NRA and all of its members.

God is responsible for the weather after all it is his playpen, but the survivors of a hurricane will credit him for saving them but those that died must have deserved to die for some reason. God is never responsible for bad things. The proper response of the survivors would be to curse God for sending the hurricane in the first place. The philosophy is absurd it is like God is 6-year-old girl playing with his Barbie dolls.

God could have taken the Las Vegas shooter out by simply zapping him or giving him a heart attack and saved 50 people and countless injuries. Christianity has struggled with the problem of good and evil. First, they blamed the devil, and it was the devil made them do it next they came up with the concept of free will. That was a contradiction in terms as the aim of the Christian cult was control over their members. Church on Sundays and where they tell you how God wants you to live your life. That allowed God to shift all the blame for evil in the world to man well not quite all the evil there is still the problem of earthquakes, floods, tornados, hurricanes, landslides, and wildfires certainly they are evil. The explanation, "God works in mysterious ways." You bet it is a mystery to them, so they have no explanation.

If God is a perfect being why did he not create a perfect world without all the natural disasters? It would have taken maybe only an extra day or so. Maybe he was creating an obstacle course for his dolls. Maye when they pulled back the curtains in OZ there was nobody there and never was only an illusion they wished to see.

Most Christians don't believe the Christian myth they just give it lip service. Christians churches are just social clubs much like a book club. How can you tell? The recent case of the woman that killed her three children. The Christians have blood in their eyes calling for vengeance. If you really believed the Christian myth, you would be celebrating in the streets because the children went to a far better place much earlier than most. Getting to heaven earlier than most would be good thing they did not have live a life of toil and trouble. You would be envious and if you were a true believer, you would kill your own children to give them every advantage. Mortal sin you say, a parent must sacrifice for their children deep down you don't believe the Christian myth.

You either belie in heaven or you don't. There is no middle ground. You are either pregnant or you're not. When the Christian conmen started selling heaven as such a great place, they created a problem many had such poor lives they committed suicide to get there. To cure that problem suicide victims could not be buried on in the church yard. Suicide became a sin and you could never get into heaven. This carried into our medical system that makes sure you must suffer to the last. We would not want anyone to get into heaven too soon.

My mom told me when my dad was dying that there are far worse things than dying. They can actually keep you alive while parts of your body rot. She was head nurse and watched many people die. I doubt she imagined her own death. I had a neighbor who went to post office had a heart attack and a stoke and died. I used to feel sorry for him that died so suddenly but now I know he was the lucky one death can take years as you die a little at time.

If you believe your relative died and went to heaven you should have a blowout party instead of a funeral. Our perception is based on patterns we will take parts and make it a pattern. Our perception will fill in the blanks that we don't see to give us the pattern to fit. Filling in the blanks is something we do autmatically. Our eyes have a blind spot that is automatically filled with out us realizing it. Philosophy is the same way we fill in the blanks without realizing we are doing it.

The election approaches and the Christian right will be out in force. Unfortunately, there will be no organized opposition. It is said that all that is necessary for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing. The Christian right wants to take control of your child's mind. They want the schools to teach their religious stories. If they could they would bring back Sunday blue laws that closed all stores on Sunday. The churches would campaign for the blue laws that closed the bakeries down but remind you to stop at the church bake sale on your way out. They didn't want anybody to shop on Sunday so they would go to church.

There are many politicians who would gladly trade their support for the vote of the Christian right. The Christian right gave us Trump, how did that work out? Ground beef reached $10.45 a pound, gasoline is averaging $4.15, a six-dollar bag of cholate is now almost $10. We have a war nobody wanted but the war criminal in Isreal. Trump tells us that prices are going down. Afterall who are you going to believe Trump or your lying eyes. Trump's popularity is down to an all-time low at 33%, and many republican candidates are distancing themself from Trump. Maybe there is hope for America yet.

Just as all of our eyes have blind spot our reasoning has a blind spot that allows for religious cults to get through. All those bodies in Jones Town were not stupid people, there were doctors, lawyers and professional people among them. These were intelligent people that a cult had gained control of them. How much control, enough that they poisoned their children. Where was the outcry then? There was outcry across the nation about the woman that killed her children. But there was no outcry about all the women that killed their children in that cult. Why? It was a cult based on Christianity. Whatever a preacher tells you do, you do. The power of cult is so powerful that the leader can tell you to kill and you will kill. David Koresh did not have to tell them about hell his followers he showed them as they burned to death.

When you turn your power of reason over to a preacher in a cult you are taking a chance. I sent a conman to prison. He told his victim he had all her financial information, and she had no idea what he could do to her. It was not an idle threat he was fresh out of prison from fraud and had plenty of prison buddies. That is good advice when it comes to preachers you have no idea what they can do to you once they gain power over you. like Trump said there may be some decent men, but you might be following a Jim Jones or Daivid Koresh by the time you realize it, it will be too late.

Will the next election bring us even more radical right Christian elected officials or will the pendulum swing back toward the center. They will claim they not only know God, but they know God's will and are more than happy impose it on the rest of the nation. When it comes to freedom or Gods will there is no contest. God knows best and his representative on earth will tell you what his will is. America has long labored under a black cloud of superstition and ignorance. It cycles, where it takes center stage as it did in the 50s when the money was stamped with "in God we Trust" and the National Prayer Breakfast started courting politicians. The 60s gave us a ban on prayer in schools. The battle ground has been our schools where the radical right wants the public school system into a religious school system. Turning our school system into a garbage in, garbage out system is a bad idea.

Conmen use religion to gain power over people it is an easy lever. They can always claim the endorsement of the invisible God. My neighbor was having some work done and the contractor was using religion to manipulate the man. He was elderly and I warned him that people that ware their religion on their sleeve are often conmen and to be careful. When people suddenly make a big display of their supposed religion it being done to manipulate a mark. The contractor did the work I don't know whether he was ripped off but the neighbor was a big church goer and would never say anything if he had been. Most true Christians will not make a big display of their religion.

Now Trump took a 1946 speech by Paul Harvey and changed it to say that God appointed Trump as caretaker of America. Can you imagine any perfect being appointing a thief, a liar, child molester, and a rapist a as caretaker of America. That is exactly what God is trying to prevent is people like Trump. Would God form an alliance with a criminal like Trump, not on his darkest day.

Okay, I get it, Zardoz is not a fan of Religion. You've posted multiple pages defining your belief system, arguing yours is better than the rest. The thing is, something like 96% of all humans believe in some sort of higher power. Your huffing and puffing isn't going to change that and it makes you look, yeah, kinda weird.

Is today's Trumpism/conservatism/Christian Nationalists bonkers? Yes! You betcha! Is it hurting America? I believe so, yes.

But do you really think going on and on in pages of a forum makes you any different than any other of the religious mentally bonkers people?

If you truly want to make a point, show how YOU are making a change to all of this? Are you active in social groups, media, political outreach & legislation?

If not please, kindly STFU about religion.

And I am not a religious type, just sick of all the whining with no action.

A higher power? Higher than what? How does that "power" actually manifest itself in the real world? Might there not be elements of fantasy and wishful thinking involved?





What brought that on? What harm is it doing? Do you really think telling someone to STFU on an open forum makes you any different than any other of the censorious close-minded mentally bonkers people?



"Let a hundred flowers bloom; let a thousand schools of thought contend."

A common description of what a higher power might include an entity that is greater than oneself or humanity in general. All your questions are valid and I'm not qualified or even interested into delving into answering any of that.

As for asking someone to STFU...
The meat and potatoes of the conversation.

Because my opinion is just as right and valid as anyone else's is.

Unless, of course, that only applies to Zardoz or Annointed.

“If we could see the miracle of a single flower clearly our whole life would change.”- Gautama Buddha

Like gravity? It's difficult to conceive how such an entity would be meaningful or even possible without resorting to the convenience of magical thinking or positing the existence of the supernatural. However, one can frame the idea as a concept, as part of a thought process or metaphysical exercise – it just doesn't require the omnipresence of an external "supreme being".


But stated opinions can be wrong sometimes, or in need of clarification. One's right to think something and express it does not confer validity to to a subject or make it true.

The reason I object to your original criticism of Zardoz's post is contextual. And I've argued this before with former A2Kers like maxdancona and Baldimo. Zardoz isn't cramming his opinions down our collective throats; he's not trying convince anyone of anything, or spamming someone else's thread, as Anointed does, or the Jehovah's Witness who posts here. Zardoz uses A2K as a weblog where he compiles his insights and expresses his opinions. Anyone is free to disagree with him, but ordering him to STFU seems inappropriate. A better option might simply be to ignore his topics.

"I can hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticize after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming a hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic." - Karl Marx

I don't believe in any religion and that is not a religion. It is like the argument that small minded people make that science is a religion, it is not. If my arguments reach one person, it is worth it. I am a little too old to be out on the streets organizing again though I did at one time. I don't know why you are so upset this post is just getting started one of my other posts has been posted almost every day for 25 years and that same post was posted 11 years on other boards before. Nobody is putting a gun to your head to make you read it. Me thinks you protest too much. I am like an old dog chasing a car if he caught it, and you asked him why, he would tell you it was the chase that was important and he needed the exercise. I need the mental exercise as much as the dog needs the physical exercise. My wife has always said," use or lose it" and she made believer out of me on that point. That especially applies to your mental health as you get older.

I suspect your real motive for wanting me to STFU it is more to do with fear and doubt. My posts threaten your world view. Your number of 96% is bogus. You can ask somebody a question but how many believe in God enough to practice it. That number would be far lower and is getting lower each day. What profession are you in? You would not be in the profession of molesting children's minds before they reach reason. Arguments are like computer viruses both the good the bad and the ugly spread to other minds. Making a difference? My ideas will be making a difference long after I am dead. I never wanted to be part of the herd because the herd imposes its ideas on you. You have to break the surly bounds of the herd to be truly free.

Ok, I was a little off, but not by much:

"Worldwide, more than eight-in-ten people identify with a religious group. A comprehensive demographic study of more than 230 countries and territories conducted by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life estimates that there are 5.8 billion religiously affiliated adults and children around the globe, representing 84% of the 2010 world population of 6.9 billion." https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2012/12/18/global-religious-landscape-exec/

Again, I am not a religious person. Bless Your Heart in your endeavors.

Lip service to religion is not unusual in today's world but practice is quite another story. If you really believed that you and your entire family would go to hell for eternity if you did not worship God at least once a week that churches would be filled to brim every week. They don't really believe it they just lend it lip service they don't want to be different than the herd, but they don't want to waste their time either. Now the only ones who truly believe are those that practice what they preach. That is the true number who actually believe and will only be a fraction of your 96%. Self-reporting is often a lousy way to do research. Lots of people show up at Easter and Christmas but that does not mean they truly believe or they would be scared to death they were going to hell. I can say I am an actor but that does not make me one. You would be surprised at the people who claimed to be at the world trade center helping out but if you depended on self-reporting counted there would have been 2 million people there.

The Christians see absolutely nothing wrong with using the public schools to recruit children. They have got some schools to post copies of the ten commandments. A group of satanists who are suing for equal access to children. If the Christians can mandate the display of the ten commandments then the satanists can display a full-sized picture of Satan with the caption "a Wild and Crazy Guy."

Do you think the Christians would be upset? Oh, you bet there would be protests in the streets. Why, they think they are the one true religion. But Satan is just another character in their fairytale. You can worship the Virgin Mary, Mosses, or any other character that practices human sacrifice.

Lawsuits for equal access have already been filed and won by the satanists.

A few more words about self-reporting if you go to a prison and ask who here is innocent? I would bet that you would find that more than 96% of the inmates were in fact innocent according to self-reporting. A herd thinker will always rely on group thinking. If our ancestors had always relied on group think we would still be living in caves today. Ater all only a cave was safe there were wild animals out there. If the Wright Brothers were group thinkers, there would be no planes today because the group knew that flying was impossible. Man's progress was only made possible by those who were able to break the bonds of group think.

I don't pay much attention to my face Book page. There are so many posts about religion. One woman who was a baby when I was a teenager posted a nonstop stream of preachers. I will say one thing she will never run out of new material. The rest of her family is almost as bad they are completely eat up with it. The one brother who was my age is sure if anyone says anything about religion they must be the devil. One of the posts was a preacher ranting about people missing church. He said you should never miss church to work a shift. How does this preacher expect to get his Lamborghini if they don't work overtime to support him and the church and keep him in the lifestyle he expects? Two of my other close friends became preachers. Of all the old gang I was the only one that escaped the Christian Cult.

The book is named "The Immoral Majority: Why the Evangelicals Chose Political Power Over Christian Values" Politics is a dirty business it is about winning in any way you can. What draws people to politics? Power. That is something that both religion and politics have in common. Religion has never been about saving souls it has always been about power over people. If you can dictate where people go, what they think, how they vote, and gain control of their money that is real power that even government would envy. In the end Christianity has always been a political organization more concerned with political power, saving souls was just a sideline for the suckers. During the dark ages Christianity had gained enough power to rightfully be considered a co government, but they squandered the power by torturing and burning people at the stake. As they delved deeper into their fairytale, they realized it could be used to justify anything. Centuries of power came tumbling down because of ignorance and corruption.

99% of all religion is false, that includes 99% claiming to be Christian religion.