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Keep Trump and Friends from Stealing Your House

 
 
Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 12 May, 2026 08:08 am
Our Christian friends tell the church is not a church for saints but a hospital for sinners. There are some sins that should never be forgiven. When someone molests a child, he should carry that guilt all the days of his life. Religious cults take care of predators and ignore the victims. Religious Cults are not running a hospital for sinners they are car wash that washes away the predator's sins. There is a reason people feel guilt it is our sense of empathy telling us that we did something wrong. The religious cults steps in and shorts circuits the process by telling the predators their sins have been forgiven and they are saved. Well, if the supreme being can forgive me certainly he will forgive me again. No need to feel guilty. After all, all sins can be forgiven.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 13 May, 2026 08:05 am
Of all the world's knowledge today less than 1% of that knowledge was available to those who lived in biblical times. What man has always done is fill in the blank with the supernatural what he didn't know he could imagine. The concept that Jesus died on the cross for our sins clearly smacks of human sacrifice. Man had been sacrificing his fellow man to atone for his sins for centuries.

The term empathy did not exist in Jesus's time nor did the fMRI. It would be centuries later before the mind was explored. Guilt however was understood by almost everybody and everybody had experienced it. The pleasure principal states we go toward pleasure and away from pain. It was natural that people would want to escape guilt. Christianity offered to forgive their sins and let them escape guilt.

What's wrong with that? Guilt is what keeps us between the guard rails. Our empathy is telling us what we are doing is wrong. We will avoid the pain of guilt by not repeating the offence. But what if a religious cult says they can forgive your sins instead? You need not feel guilty because you have been forgiven. You need not have to deal with the guilt of molesting a child because you are forgiven and can and will be forgiven for the next child you molest.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 13 May, 2026 08:31 am
Trump is now saying that China will invest a trillion dollars in the United States. Didn't we just go through this with TikTok. I wonder if China would object to us spending a trillion dollars to locate the CIA branch in downtown Beijing. China is already sending robots over here with surveillance software in them. Imagine what damage an army of robots could do being controlled by a Chinese factory located in the United States. during the cold war the Russians put sleeper cells in United States they were in place for 30 or forty years. They appeared as normal families with a long history in the United States. They could then be activated to do what the Russian military wanted.

If Tick Toc was a security risk this is far more dangerous, we may already be hosting an invading army.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 14 May, 2026 08:05 am
With any scam they tell you to "follow the money.'' In the Christan scam it is easy to follow the money. In order to be 'saved" you must join the Christian cult. Cha ching? One mega church preacher took so many people he bought his wife a Lamborghini SUV for her birthday it cost just short of half million dollars. So much for that vow of poverty.

The crucifixion always bothered me, why would Jesus die on a cross for our sins when he could just snap his fingers and make them vanish? Showmanship? The answer lies in the fact that all religions borrow from past religions. In past religions human sacrifices were common. Even in the bible human sacrifice continued. When there was a drought or a flood it was obvious their God was angry with them. The idea of human sacrifice is that sacrificing an individual would atone for the sins of all. The Christian cult picked up the idea with a twist.

It is a well know principal that by doing something for someone you obligate them to return the favor. When Christ dies on the cross for your sins you are under an obligation for life to join the Christian cult.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Fri 15 May, 2026 08:03 am
Human sacrifice was pretty much standard across older religions. When you imagine God, you also imagine how he feels. If there is a drought it is easy to imagine that your God is not pleased so the people must have sinned. How to get back into your God’s good graces? Sacrifice people of course that will please God and it rains the next day is proof positive that human sacrifice works. Christian doctrine flipped this scenario instead of men being sacrificed to God for the sins of the community God is sacrificed for the sins of the community. It is still the basic idea that human sacrifice can atone for the sins of others.

Now let’s look at the problem from the other end. Did Jesus die for the sins of people like Jeffery Epstein? Would we as a society want that to take place? Epstein spent his life molesting underage girls when he was through, he loaned them out to friends. Why would Jesus want to die to atone for sins of people like Epstein? Would this make Jesus complicit in those crimes? Deep down we all know that Epstein and those like him are not going to hell but if they believe that all their sins were taken care of by the death of Jesus, they have no incentive to stop molesting girls. This idea that someone’s death can atone for our sins pervades our society and prevents us from properly dealing with the problem.
kjw47
 
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Reply Fri 15 May, 2026 05:55 pm
@Zardoz,
Jesus died for repented sin, not practiced sin or willfull sin.
Justice is what Jesus death was about= A perfect mortal sinned and lost a good standing with God-- A perfect mortal lived sinless, yet paid in full the wages of sin, he did not owe=death, thus that was justice=the ransom sacrifice.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 15 May, 2026 06:40 pm
@kjw47,
How does the mechanism of sacrifice work? How does slaughtering an animal or lynching an itinerant religious reformer balance the scales of justice? What actually happens? Where's the evidence that it's an effective procedure? Can you point out some examples from real world experience? Seems like a fairy tale to me.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2026 08:34 am
@kjw47,
Do you not recognize the classic scapegoat tale. Scapegoats are still with us to this day. When a corporation does something wrong, they will find somebody to sacrifice and usually not the one that was responsible. The scapegoat concept is as old as time and as new as tomorrow. Jesus is the classic scapegoat, but the role was cast on him after the fact. Usually everybody knows who the scapegoat is and is there to witness the scapegoat get slaughtered. The Christian cult made Jesus the scapegoat about 300 years afterward when the Bible was written down to make a coherent tale.

What is truly frightening today is that many people today are worshiping a primitive human sacrificial cult. At one time religious cults were co governments with the civil government. To be king you had to be chosen by God. Of course, it was God’s man on earth who would decide who would be king. This gave religious cults the most power they ever held. What did they do? They started sacrificing people (witch burnings) all over the known world and stealing their property.

It does not matter what sins Jesus served as a scape goat for it matters that some people believe that a scapegoat can atone for any sin. Could scapegoats become common today? For the last 50 years the Christan right has tried to take control of the government. Preachers have run for president. If you actual believe in the scapegoat tale you might want to solve your problems that way.

Is not all sin willful? Did you just accidentally strangle your wife to death?
kjw47
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2026 05:38 pm
@Zardoz,
there is major sins and minor sins. Its the major sins that are unacceptable. Jesus was real.
hightor
 
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Reply Sat 16 May, 2026 07:14 pm
@kjw47,
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A perfect mortal lived sinless, yet paid in full the wages of sin, he did not owe=death, thus that was justice=the ransom sacrifice.

I finally found a convincing argument for legitimate acts of sacrifice:

Quote:
When a batter hits a fly ball that an outfielder catches, but the runner at third or home still moves forward or scores, the play is called a sacrifice fly. When less than two outs are remaining and runners on first, second, or third, this play is often made.

The batter, in a sacrifice fly, purposefully hits the ball high to allow the runner to advance, setting themselves apart from other plays. Instead of trying to get a hit, the focus should be on making an out that advances the runners for your team. hb


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Zardoz
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2026 08:00 am
@kjw47,
I know Jesus is real, if you go to Mexico, you will find thousands of people named Jesus. The word was that Jesus died for your sins not that he only died for minor sins. Who would decide what was a major sin compared to minor sin? The jay walker would be forgiven but the drunk driver would not, at least if he ran over the jay walker. Should there be board that you submit your sins to that decides where the line is between major SINs or minor sins? Those that have committed major SINs would know that their sins can never be forgiven and can just raise hell. I forgot Christian propaganda stipulates that you can't judge. The water just got muddier.
kjw47
 
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Reply Sun 17 May, 2026 05:24 pm
@Zardoz,
God decided what the major sins are( 1Corinthians 6:9-11) Galatians 5:19-21) along with all the false god worship on Earth included = 99.99% of all humans mislead( Luke 17:26)-- a sad reality.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2026 08:09 am
@kjw47,
The way I understand the Christan scam is someone shows up at a church and is told if they join the cult, you will be saved and will be gifted with eternal life. There are no background checks and no questions about prior sins. If God decides what are major sins when does he tell the prospective member that their sins are major and can't be forgiven? I don't think I have encountered in Christan literature a sin that can't be forgiven. So, if all sins can be forgiven if you accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, it makes no difference if the sins were major or minor, they would all be forgiven. God could have listed the major sins in the bible that would not be forgiven, and those people would not need to waste their time and money on a Christian cult but that would defeat the Christian goal of recruiting as many members as possible. Could Jesus be guilty of fraud for withholding information?
kjw47
 
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Reply Mon 18 May, 2026 12:46 pm
@Zardoz,
Jesus is 100% clear--Matthew 7:21--Those who live now in this satan ruled system doing his Fathers will get to enter his kingdom( be saved)--that = FEW on Earth. Blind guides assure others-you are saved or born again or osas, or get grace free. Their jaws will be dropped hearing these words from Jesus at Matt 7:22-23 as judgement because they do not live now doing Jesus' Fathers will, because they do not know it. It entails-OT-NT carefully studied, applied, obeyed( barring some mosaic laws) it never stops.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Tue 19 May, 2026 07:51 am
The main ingredient in any cult is fear. Fear is how cults motivate followers and recruit others. In your post you state "Their Jaws will be dropped hearing these words from Jesus." Christianity claims to be about brotherly love, but it is primarily about fear. Trump used fear to create and motivate his cult, fear of illegal aliens. While studies show illegal aliens were less likely to be criminals than Americans. They used to hunt buffalo by stampeding the herd until they ran over a cliff and they could just collect the bodies at the bottom cliff.

Most Christians are motivated by fear, they are afraid ow what this all-powerful God could to do to them. They are like an ant and could be stepped on at any time. Like the buffalo they are herded toward the cliff. They tried to motivate me with their fear, but it did not work. Most people would be afraid to point out all the flaws of Christian Cult in the bible belt but then my idea of fun was to be in my racecar four nights a week at a time when death was not uncommon.
kjw47
 
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Reply Tue 19 May, 2026 11:44 am
@Zardoz,
Yes mortals are like ants to a God, Yet the true living God-loves his creations, Its they who are failing him.
Zardoz
 
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Reply Wed 20 May, 2026 08:10 am
@kjw47,
I was able to accept the fact that death was inevitable early on while others escaped into magical thinking. They spend their life and fortune trying to escape the inevitable. This makes them vulnerable to every conman with a collar and the most fantastic stories. Magically thinking provides you with escape velocity from reality. Once one accepts the magical world there is nothing that is impossible. "Every type of refuge has its price." Escaping reality is a refuge and you will pay a price.
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Zardoz
 
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Reply Thu 21 May, 2026 08:05 am
@kjw47,
How do you presume to know the will of God? There are all kinds of people that will tell you that they know the will of God, but do they know or do they imagine they know and soon the will of God begins to be self-serving. When Moses sacrificed his top two assistants because he thought God was in a bad mood. What if God was not in a bad mood, what if sacrificing humans no longer amused him? Did God send Moses a fax saying he wanted 10 people sacrificed by noon? The key point is that Moses imagined what the will of God was and not only that he also imagined a God.

Those that think they know the will of their imaginary God will find that their will and the will of their God are one in the same.


kjw47
 
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Reply Thu 21 May, 2026 04:41 pm
@Zardoz,
God spoke to Moses. He can speak to anyone through holy spirit. He can direct hearts to carry out his will.
By studying Gods written word one learns his likes and dislikes.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 22 May, 2026 04:56 am
@kjw47,
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By studying Gods written word one learns his likes and dislikes.

Wait a second – you just said that God "speaks". Now you're adding that it "writes" as well? What does it use as a writing implement? Where is the original copy of its "written word"?
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