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Presidential Election 2024

 
 
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 15 Oct, 2024 04:41 pm
@Brandon9000,
There's no 'mind reading' it's about events and how the candidates reacted.

You're just a pavlovian response, coming up with inane, time wasting comments then running away for a month.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 16 Oct, 2024 06:24 am
Quote:
Public interest groups urge US and Wisconsin AG's to investigate
illegal attempt to intimidate thousands of young voters


Free Speech For People issued a letter today to US Attorney General Merrick Garland and Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Kaul on behalf of the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, demanding that they investigate threatening text messages, identify the source, and promptly take appropriate enforcement action against the perpetrators in order to protect Wisconsin’s voters.

Last week, thousands of young Wisconsin voters received a threatening text message: “WARNING: Violating WI Statutes 12.13 & 6.18 may result in fines up to $10,000 or 3.5 years in prison. Don’t vote in a state where you’re not eligible. STOP2END.” It was distributed widely across Wisconsin, but specifically targeted young voters 18-25 years of age, including young staff members of the League of Women Voters and many voters across the University of Wisconsin system.

It is not yet known how many thousands of voters received this message. Its sender remains anonymous.

“Voter intimidation has no place in our democracy,” said Debra Cronmiller, executive director for the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin. “Wisconsin voters need to know that these threatening text messages are illegal and the League of Women Voters will fight against bad actors who seek to sow confusion in our elections.”

“Voter intimidation is illegal and undermines the core of our democracy, where every citizen is free to vote without fear or interference, said Celina Stewart, CEO of the League of Women Voters of the United States. “Intentionally targeting young people during an election season, and especially this close to the election is outrageous, and the League won't stand for it. The League of Women Voters is committed to ensuring voters can make their voices heard this fall.”

Wisconsin law is clear: students who live and attend college in Wisconsin are allowed to choose whether to register to vote with their school address or their home address; and Wisconsin residents who attend college out-of-state may elect to vote absentee in Wisconsin. Wis. s. 6.02, 6.15, 6.18. But now, while voting by mail is ongoing and one week before early in-person voting begins, students may be wondering whether their decision to vote in Wisconsin will subject them to investigation and prosecution—and whether the safest course of action is to avoid registering or voting at all.

“It is distressing and dangerous that thousands of young people can be targeted by a disinformation text message sent by anonymous perpetrators that threatens their right to vote,” said Courtney Hostetler, legal director for Free Speech For People. “Young voters and student voters have a critically important voice in our country, and they have every right to vote in elections where they are eligible. The U.S. and Wisconsin Departments of Justice must act swiftly to protect these voters and other voters who might be subject to similarly unlawful, threatening text messages before the election.”

The letter argues that text messages are a clear effort to threaten and intimidate voters, which is illegal under both the federal Voting Rights Act and under Wisconsin law. Parties that commit voter intimidation should not be allowed to hide behind technology or benefit from the anonymity of texting. Young voters in Wisconsin should be able to go to the polls without being subject to intimidating, disinformation messaging about their rights. And the League of Women Voters of Wisconsin, engaged in important, nonpartisan Get Out The Vote efforts, should not be left scrambling to reach and correct dangerous election disinformation from anonymous sources.

The letter demands swift action urging the U.S. Department of Justice and the Wisconsin Department of Justice to promptly and thoroughly investigate these texts, make public the identity of the party or parties responsible for disseminating the texts, and take appropriate enforcement action against the perpetrators.
(source)
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TinkerToDo
 
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Reply Thu 17 Oct, 2024 09:23 am
The presidential Election to me is already settled. Harris is going to win. Go vote today! For the future of the United States and Democracy! Project 2025 must be stopped. Heck, even former Trump officials warn against letting that man step into the White House another time. Go, Harris, go! It's going to be the first US female president as well, sending a great signal to the world for gender equality I hope.
Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2024 11:08 am
@TinkerToDo,
You use a lot of scary words but fail to state a single thing Trump ever did wrong specifically.
Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2024 11:12 am
@Brandon9000,

why should they?

this thread is about the election, not a debate about what trump did or didn't do...
izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2024 11:44 am
@Brandon9000,
You've been given a list, remember.

Come back when you've got something original to say.

You've been repeating this sad refrain for the past five years.

You're like the resident of a care home asking what time is/ has he had(?) breakfast at 3pm.

You've added nothing to the conversation, just pathetic distractions.

Grow up!
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izzythepush
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2024 11:45 am
@TinkerToDo,
Have you seen South Park?

Scott is like Brandon, well known.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Fri 18 Oct, 2024 10:24 pm
@Region Philbis,
I'm merely responding to what he said:

"even former Trump officials warn against letting that man step into the White House another time"

If you're going to imply that he's a bad guy, you must expect to be asked to support it.

I notice that a lot of you make sweeping but vague comments about Trump's sins, but if asked to back any of it up, start whining and making excuses.
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engineer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2024 10:35 am
So 538.com has Trump at 52% chance of winning, so a toss up, but in the opposite direction of where they were a couple of weeks ago.

Someone asked how much do I trust 538.com. The answer is a lot. 538 ranks pollsters, monitors partisan lean and has a really good past history. (They were the site that said that Clinton would likely win, but it wasn't a slam dunk.) Their Monte Carlo analyses are not fully random; they assume that regions swing together, so if they don't treat Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania has random states, but assume if the polls are in error, they will be in error the same direction in the entire region.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 21 Oct, 2024 02:08 pm
@engineer,
Did my early voting civic duty today. The line was long, most of the voters where carrying the blue, Dem recommended list. Of course, that is normal for early voting, Democrats are much more likely to vote early.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Mon 28 Oct, 2024 03:59 pm

this is reprehensible...

Ballot drop box fires under investigation in Oregon, Washington
(cnn)
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engineer
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2024 11:03 am
538.com is calling it 51-49 for Trump right now with the caveat that it's just a toss up.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2024 12:08 pm
@engineer,
Which is better than what they were posting 10 days ago.

Fingers crossed, movement in the right direction.
engineer
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2024 01:29 pm
@izzythepush,
Agreed! There is a part of me that truly believes that Americans will step up when the called. I hope that time is now.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2024 01:47 pm
@engineer,
I really hope you're right.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 31 Oct, 2024 04:08 pm
I think the genocide is going to lose in the US.

I abhor the idea of the administration that is making the genocide possible getting a rubber stamp by voters.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2024 07:21 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I think the genocide is going to lose in the US.

I abhor the idea of the administration that is making the genocide possible getting a rubber stamp by voters.

So? That's a vote for the fascist dictator wannabe - who will do nothing for the people of Gaza and do everything to enable Netanyahu? Also refusing all entry to the US for all Arab refugees?

Your disingenuous BS is blatantly obvious.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2024 07:41 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

I think the genocide is going to lose in the US.

I abhor the idea of the administration that is making the genocide possible getting a rubber stamp by voters.

The genocide is running unopposed, supported by both sides.
engineer
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2024 07:47 pm
It's crunch time and I think the only state that matters is Pennsylvania. If Harris wins there, she will likely win in Michigan and Wisconsin, getting the votes she needs to win. If Trump wins there, he will likely win North Carolina and Georgia, giving him the election.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2024 08:32 pm
@tsarstepan,
Nonsense. You call Trump a fascist dictator wannabe? Okay, tell us one, single fascist thing he's ever done or advocated.
 

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