Slowly But Surely...Americans Wise Up

I can't say what I think about Sturgis without this being my last post.17 marines died last week and Bush's right hand man is being implicated in a C.I.A. leak that jeopardized national security.Where is bush? he's on a five week vacation at the ranch.The longest vacation of any President in 36 years.Bush has spent 20 percent of his presidency on vacation while the country is at war.Thats more then any president in the history of the U.S.! But don't trust me check the facts.

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Stugis

You may sleep well at night and I am sure that arrogant ---- in the white house certainly does. Since neither you or he seem very much disturbed by the 1800 American service people he has sent to their death.
IMO he should be spending the rest of his days sleeping in a jail cell. Convicted of the murder of these Americans. For surely starting a war and sending them in harms way based on deception is IMO nothing less than murder.

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folks save your breath...sturgis can't hear you....he' s sleeping. He's such an angel when he's sleeping.

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au1929 wrote:

Stugis

You may sleep well at night and I am sure that arrogant ---- in the white house certainly does. Since neither you or he seem very much disturbed by the 1800 American service people he has sent to their death.
IMO he should be spending the rest of his days sleeping in a jail cell. Convicted of the murder of these Americans. For surely starting a war and sending them in harms way based on deception is IMO nothing less than murder.

really... doesn't bush understand, "we are at WAR !!" ?

that's okay. let him do to the country what he did to his business'. as long as we make sure them womenfolk are having babies they don't want so we can get 'em to prayin' in school before their intelligent design science class, it's all worth it.

jesus.... and right wing religio-political extremists insist that i hate america...

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

folks save your breath...sturgis can't hear you....he' s sleeping. He's such an angel when he's sleeping.

Thank you...I think. Or are you implying I am not an angel when awake? Twisted Evil

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au1929 wrote:

StuRgis (I have edited and corrected the spelling of my name)

... disturbed by the 1800 American service people he has sent to their death.

George Bush didn't send anyone to their death. Death is in the hands of our Great Creator and the men and women who have gone to Iraq are all volunteers. They were not forced to enlist in any military service, it was their choice and many of them enlisted after September 11,2001 and many enlisted after we had already entered into action in Iraq so it was not exactly a matter of them not knowing what might happen. Also keep in mind that when you do a tally of total numbers, the loss of American lives, is nothing in comparison to those numbers in the rosters of Saddam's total kills or even the number of murders which Iraqis of various sects are committing on a continued basis.

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Saddam was put in power by Americans and our voluteer army trusted that power would not be abused.

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Sturgis wrote:

au1929 wrote:
StuRgis (I have edited and corrected the spelling of my name)

... disturbed by the 1800 American service people he has sent to their death.

George Bush didn't send anyone to their death.

oh ? then who was it that decided to send the military to iraq ? when iraq had not attacked the united states ?

...They were not forced to enlist in any military service, it was their choice and many of them enlisted after September 11,2001 and many enlisted after we had already entered into action in Iraq so it was not exactly a matter of them not knowing what might happen.

semantically true, but a very head in the sand statement. if this was said by a "liberal", you guys would be saying how it proves that "liberals don't support the troops!".

it would be run through the "conservtranslator" and come out reading, "they got what they deserved".

the guys in afghanistan did know what they were getting, a lot of left over mujahadin over amped on the koran.

the soldiers sent to iraq were sent to fight an army, not a bunch of guerillas.

so no, they didn't really know what they were getting into then. now they do, and that is why recruiting isn't doing as well as it was.

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Sturgis
The troops did not enlist to fight in Iraq. Those that did enlist, enlisted to fight Bin Laden's minions in Afghanistan. You must be familiar the war on terror.
Iraq was not part of that war until Bush decided it was. And by his actions made it so. Regarding the so called enlistments Approx. 40% of the troops in Iraq are from the National Guard and reserves and did not enlist to fight in Bush's unjustified war. The blood of the Americans killed and wounded in Iraq drips from the hands of the monster in the White House.
Sturgis wrote

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Also keep in mind that when you do a tally of total numbers, the loss of American lives, is nothing in comparison to those numbers in the rosters of Saddam's total kills or even the number of murders which Iraqis of various sects are committing on a continued basis.

After all the other reasons Bush gave as justification for the invasion failed this became the theme of the Bush supporters. I won't even dignify that with a response it doesn't deserve one. Anyone who says the loss of American lives is noting because it is less than----. Should be tarred and feathered and run out of the country.
The fact remains we are shedding American blood in a war that is an ego trip for Mr. bring it on Bush .

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hold it... are you saying someone besides Saddam Hussein was responsible for 9/11?

What kind of bullshit is that?

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OH! Errr, Ah, umm. #$%^& Question

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Aug 6, 6:10 PM EDT
Mom of Slain Soldier Stages Bush Protest

By DEB RIECHMANN
Associated Press Writer
CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) -- The angry mother of a fallen U.S. soldier staged a protest near President Bush's ranch on Saturday, demanding an accounting from the president of how he has conducted the war in Iraq.

Supported by more than 50 shouting demonstrators, Cindy Sheehan, 48, told reporters, "I want to ask George Bush: Why did my son die?"

Sheehan arrived in Crawford aboard a bus painted red, white and blue and emblazoned with the words, "Impeachment Tour."

Her son, Casey, 24, was killed in Sadr City, Iraq, on April 4, 2004. He was an Army specialist, a Humvee mechanic.

Sheehan, from Vacaville, Calif., had been attending a Veterans for Peace Convention in Dallas. She vowed she would camp out as close as she could get to the president's ranch until Bush comes out and talks to her.

Local law enforcement officials were keeping Sheehan four to five miles away from the ranch's entrance.

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Bush is hiding err I mean on vacation. It is hard work sending people to die. The question" why "is being asked over and over and deserves a truthful answer.

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au1929 wrote:

Bush is hiding err I mean on vacation. It is hard work sending people to die. The question" why "is being asked over and over and deserves a truthful answer.

could be that we'll get something like that out of the fitzgerald investigation.

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yet another poll

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8849936/site/newsweek/

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blueveinedthrobber wrote:

yet another poll

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8849936/site/newsweek/

uh ohh... the smoke is clearing and the mirrors are starting to crack.

bvt, your story also had a link to a short on fitzgerald;

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To Fitzgerald's friends, the reassessment is long overdue. They point to his record as a federal prosecutor in the Southern District of New York (he brought charges against figures ranging from the Gambino crime family to the Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman to Osama bin Laden) as proof that he is pursuing the greater good. Mary Jo White, the former U.S. attorney who was Fitzgerald's boss in the Southern District, recommended him for his current assignment as U.S. attorney in Chicago. His strength, she says, lies in how he "exercises his power with a real recognition of how awesome it is... He has a strong sense of the nuance."

msnbc.msn.com/id/8599914/site/newsweek

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Rice: Insurgency Losing Political Steam

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By DOUGLASS K. DANIEL
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the insurgency in Iraq is losing steam as a political force, even as Democratic congressmen warned Sunday that violence jeopardizes plans for withdrawing some troops.

Rice, in an article appearing on Time magazine's Web site, argued against viewing the war solely through the rising death toll. More than 1,820 American troops have died in Iraq, at least 30 of them in the last week.

"It's a lot easier to see the violence and suicide bombing than to see the rather quiet political progress that's going on in parallel," Rice said.

"If you think about how to defeat an insurgency, you defeat it not just militarily but politically," she said, adding that she believes the insurgents are "losing steam" politically.

Appearing on Sunday news shows, Democratic lawmakers expressed misgivings about plans for withdrawing some troops from Iraq. A leading Republican said that politics should not guide battlefield decisions

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Rice, Rumsfeld ,Chaney and Bush must be sharing the same pair of rose colored glasses. Is it any wonder that Bush's believability and honesty index is falling like a lead balloon. From all indications it would appear that the insurgents are becoming stronger and more organized. Further they are not lacking for new recruits. IMO the time is past due for Bush to drop his political cover and start leveling with the American public.

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Too many people in the US don't care, are uninterested, uninformed, biased, etc. It will take too long to get their heads cleared up.

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I post on a board dedicated to paintball players (I used to play professionally) and I am seeing this switch in the approval rating even in thier ranks.

This board is a rank in file NRA style republicans - and even they are hating on Bush.

Odd...

TTF

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thethinkfactory wrote:

I post on a board dedicated to paintball players (I used to play professionally) and I am seeing this switch in the approval rating even in thier ranks.

This board is a rank in file NRA style republicans - and even they are hating on Bush.

Odd...

TTF

I don't think it is that odd at all. I think that the overwhelming stench of bullsh*t is becoming too strong to ignore.

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sumac wrote:

Too many people in the US don't care, are uninterested, uninformed, biased, etc.

Indeed. Now if we can only convince them to stop voting.

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