Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:45 pm
I have to go for lunch at do some work for the next few days.

We will all meet again
Beneath the broken sky
And in the by and by

It has been fun!

Cheers,

Chum
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:46 pm
Bartikus,

I forgot! Shocked Are you still in there from last night? Oh honey, Momma's sorry! Come on out and get something to eat!
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:47 pm
Chumly wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
Should you not first substantiate your claim that the world is overpopulated and try to stay away from circular reasoning in order to do so?
Ummmm are you seriously going to argue with me that overpopulation is not a problem? That is going to be a hoot! Go ahead and stake your claim. I've staked mine Smile


I never said overpopulation was not a problem???

What is your claim? That the world is currently overpopulated? You may have staked it but it remains unestablished from my perspective.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 04:50 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Bartikus,

I forgot! Shocked Are you still in there from last night? Oh honey, Momma's sorry! Come on out and get something to eat!


I snuck a fridge into the room.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:02 pm
Bartikus wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
Bartikus,

I forgot! Shocked Are you still in there from last night? Oh honey, Momma's sorry! Come on out and get something to eat!


I snuck a fridge into the room.


Whew! Laughing
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:04 pm
Jason Proudmoore wrote:
So, the egg and the sperm have to be fertilized so it can be called "human being."
But the zygote has the DNA of the mother and the father, doesn't it? And it is alive…and the same thing applies to sperms, MA.


real life wrote:
This is simply incorrect.



Really? (I'm smiling, reading myself to laugh)

real life wrote:
The unborn has his own distinctive DNA. His DNA is not that of the father (they don't match) nor is it that of the mother (they don't match).


So, my sperms don't have "distinctive DNA," which got there when my mom and dad had sex to have me? Don't I have my mother's and my father's DNA…and therefore, my sperms got it too?

real life wrote:
He has a little of each, and probably some that resembles grandma and grandpa , but he is a copy of NONE of them. He is an individual from the moment of conception.


And so do I… and my sperms.

real life wrote:
Neither the sperm or the egg are human beings because they lack the requisite number of chromosomes (46) to be a human being.


When did you hear this nonsense? Where do you think the DNA resides, Curly? DNA resides in the nucleus of a chromosome. So, if I want to clone myself, do I need the DNA of the mother (host) too? Eh, Einstein? My clone wouldn't be considered a person if it came to this world?

real life wrote:
No matter how long the sperm or the egg is protected and nourished it will never be a human being.



Why not? According to the nonsense being argued on this thread, about a piece of protein being call a "child," why can't the sperm be called a human being?

The sperm and the egg both carry just 23 chromosomes and do not constitute a human being, get it? [/quote]

I do get it. But your argument loses steam when you introuduce such nonsense.

But they have (the sperm and the egg) to be fertilized to be considered a child? Be that as it may… the cells don't share the 23 and 23 pair of chromosomes right away. So, before this process is accomplished, the "child" is not a child…just a piece of protein growing and developing to soon become a "child"?

real life wrote:
The ridiculous argument of abortion supporters that 'an egg is not a chicken, therefore the unborn is not a human being' is just evidence of ignorance of basic biological facts; or maybe just the willingness to conceal and ignore them while hoping others are ignorant.


The words are out there…use definitions accordingly.

PS: have you ever been in elementary school at least?
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:30 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Well, I can see it's going to take more than sending you boys to your rooms to straighten your butts out, isn't it?

Well, you just wait until....................................I think of something to really threaten you with!!!!!!!!!

Mysteryman, Bad! Bad! Shame, shame. <<<Momma walks away with her head shaking from side to side.>>>


Can't you see that they started it? Or am I have to go and live with dad?
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:32 pm
Jason got in trouble...Jason got in trouble...nyaaah,nyaaah,nyaaah.
I didnt...nyaaah,nyaaah,nyaaah
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:43 pm
Ok, that's it! Off to your rooms both of you! Jason for sassing me and Mysterman for making fun of Jason!

Oh brother, why didn't I have girls?!!!!!!!! :wink:
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:47 pm
I'm not going to my dad's. Jason said he is a sperm.

Your an egghead Jason.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:49 pm
Ok, Jason is right. He is. :wink:

Bartikus, stay in your room until you apologize to Jason for calling him an egghead.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:52 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
Ok, that's it! Off to your rooms both of you! Jason for sassing me and Mysterman for making fun of Jason!

Oh brother, why didn't I have girls?!!!!!!!! :wink:


I dont wanna go and you cant make me!!!!!

[size=7]having said that I'm going to my room[/size]
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:52 pm
Bartikus wrote:
What is your claim? That the world is currently overpopulated?
Yes
Bartikus wrote:
Should you not first substantiate your claim that the world is overpopulated and try to stay away from circular reasoning in order to do so?
I am taking a quick break from work. I suggest we move this topic to a new thread where I will state my views on why overpopulation is rampant and seriously problematic and what my definitions of overpopulation are. You may counter as you see fit.
Bartikus wrote:
I never said overpopulation was not a problem???
I'll take your word for it I have not checked
Bartikus wrote:
You may have staked it but it remains unestablished from my perspective.
Recognition of the premise of defining one's terms is an essential first.

You have no idea what I mean by overpopulation and I have no idea what you mean by overpopulation.

I gather the we do know that MM thinks there is no overpopulation by whatever spurious methods MM uses to gauge such a condition.

As per MM it at this time appears a mystery except to say that I gather he thinks there is enough food and he thinks there is enough room. A rather specious argument for the lack of overpopulation I assert.

See you on the new thread buddy.

Caveat: I have not read many of MM posts so he may say more as to overpopulation than I referred to here but MM is not the point of the new thread by any means nor the point of this post.
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:53 pm
Bartikus wrote:
I'm not going to my dad's. Jason said he is a sperm.



According to the stupid argument being held here, I'm a sperm…and so are you.


Bartikus wrote:
Your an egghead Jason.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:54 pm
That's it! I'm going out! You kids take care of yourselves for awhile!

<<<<slams door and catches angel gown in the door ~ now wearing an angel mini! Shocked>>>>
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:55 pm
now wearing an angel mini! >>>>

I want a picture of that... Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 05:56 pm
I HEARD THAT!!!!!!! Shocked
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Chumly
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 06:02 pm
Chumly wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
What is your claim? That the world is currently overpopulated?
Yes
Bartikus wrote:
Should you not first substantiate your claim that the world is overpopulated and try to stay away from circular reasoning in order to do so?
I am taking a quick break from work. I am not using so-called "circular reasoning" to substantiate my claim of overpopulation. in fact I have as of yet made no substantiation of any kind as to my claim of overpopulation. I suggest we move this topic to a new thread where I will state my views on why overpopulation is rampant and seriously problematic and what my definitions of overpopulation are. You may counter as you see fit.
Bartikus wrote:
I never said overpopulation was not a problem???
I'll take your word for it I have not checked
Bartikus wrote:
You may have staked it but it remains unestablished from my perspective.
Recognition of the premise of defining one's terms is an essential first.

You have no idea what I mean by overpopulation and I have no idea what you mean by overpopulation.

I gather the we do know that MM thinks there is no overpopulation by whatever spurious methods MM uses to gauge such a condition.

As per MM it at this time appears a mystery except to say that I gather he thinks there is enough food and he thinks there is enough room. A rather specious argument for the lack of overpopulation I assert.

See you on the new thread buddy.

Caveat: I have not read many of MM posts so he may say more as to overpopulation than I referred to here but MM is not the point of the new thread by any means nor the point of this post.
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Bartikus
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 06:02 pm
Jason Proudmoore wrote:
Bartikus wrote:
I'm not going to my dad's. Jason said he is a sperm.



According to the stupid argument being held here, I'm a sperm…and so are you.


Bartikus wrote:
Your an egghead Jason.


Who actually made that stupid argument? Was that RL?
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Jason Proudmoore
 
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Reply Wed 1 Mar, 2006 06:09 pm
Bartikus wrote:

Who actually made that stupid argument? Was that RL?


Anybody who thinks that a conjunction of growing cells in the womb of a female human is a child.
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