Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:14 pm
Lash wrote:
Not yet.

I had a good hair day and I'm feeling frisky.

I'm about to open a bottle of chianti. Am I annoying?


Laughing I meant dys. Laughing
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:17 pm
Well, ****. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

I will take that to mean I'm not annoying and invoke a double super secret embargo on further commentary re my annoy-ity.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:19 pm
No Lash... tonight you are not annoying. :-)
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:20 pm
God bless you, and God bless America!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:20 pm
as far as I know I am the only one who as been embargoed. alas I have been forgiven by Lash.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:21 pm
Must be due to your sensitive side, dys
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:24 pm
Intrepid wrote:
Must be due to your sensitive side, dys

Actually, it's the extra large love gun.

Shoot me, you shiftless pirate!
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:42 pm
Rats! dys, has been embargoed? Does that mean I can't send him a non-religious fruitcake?
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 08:43 pm
I hadn't looked at it from the fruitcake angle...




<don't you dare>
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real life
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 09:42 pm
dyslexia wrote:
The abortion problem, as I see it is that those getting abortions are the more educated, while those not getting an abortion are the fruitcake religionists that we don't need more of.




You have picked up on the fact that the demographics of this issue are against you, and you are correct for several reasons.

One, as you implied, is that pro-life folks will tend to raise their kids to be pro-life. They will eventually outnumber the pro-abortion folks who tend to have fewer kids, due in part to the fact that the pro-abortion folks have killed some of theirs. Those who you seem to consider more 'educated' are driving themselves to extinction. Yep, real smart crowd.

It's a vicious circle. As someone said, "Children of parents who don't have children, also tend not to have children." if ya know what I mean.

The other factor is that the younger generation overall is more pro-life than their parents. Survey after survey points this out. Even the surveys taken by groups like Planned Parenthood make it obvious.

Anyone born after Roe v Wade who thinks about it for about 1 minute realizes the law would have allowed their parents to end their life, and they don't like it one bit.

'If you are younger than 32, it coulda been you.'

Can't blame them for feeling that way. It's just wrong and they know it.

As another has said, "I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 09:45 pm
Awesome.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 10 Dec, 2005 09:51 pm
real life wrote:
Quote:
As another has said, "I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."


I posted that line, real life. However, it was one of your past presidents who said it --- Ronald Reagan
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Questioner
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2005 09:11 am
So RL, how's that lobbying going? You know, the one that you're actively participating in to get the abortion laws repealed.
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real life
 
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Reply Sun 11 Dec, 2005 08:03 pm
Roe v Wade, in effect, struck down state anti-abortion laws.

There were no 'pro-abortion laws' put in their place by the Supreme court, since it is beyond their jurisdiction to try to write laws.

So, I would like to see the abortion laws of those states which outlawed abortion pre 1973 to be reinstated, not repealed.

What legal restrictions on abortion would you support?
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Mon 12 Dec, 2005 08:30 am
I was under the impression that if Roe vs. Wade was repealed, then abortion would not necessarily be banned, it would simply be up to the individual states...does this mean that all the voters will decide? Like the gay-marraige bills?
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Wolf ODonnell
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 04:57 am
real life wrote:
dyslexia wrote:
The abortion problem, as I see it is that those getting abortions are the more educated, while those not getting an abortion are the fruitcake religionists that we don't need more of.


You have picked up on the fact that the demographics of this issue are against you, and you are correct for several reasons.

One, as you implied, is that pro-life folks will tend to raise their kids to be pro-life. They will eventually outnumber the pro-abortion folks who tend to have fewer kids, due in part to the fact that the pro-abortion folks have killed some of theirs. Those who you seem to consider more 'educated' are driving themselves to extinction. Yep, real smart crowd.

It's a vicious circle. As someone said, "Children of parents who don't have children, also tend not to have children." if ya know what I mean.


What bull is this? Pro-abortion folks will not necessarily have abortions. To think that all pro-abortion folks will have abortions is over-simplistic and an argument that no intelligent pro-life supporter would ever fall for.

Quote:
The other factor is that the younger generation overall is more pro-life than their parents. Survey after survey points this out. Even the surveys taken by groups like Planned Parenthood make it obvious.


Now that's a better argument, but it needs some references.

Quote:
Anyone born after Roe v Wade who thinks about it for about 1 minute realizes the law would have allowed their parents to end their life, and they don't like it one bit.

'If you are younger than 32, it coulda been you.'


Once again we are falling into the realms of over-simplistic arguments that really have no place in this thread. I am 22, yet I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. However, even I believe there should be restrictions limiting abortions to early-terms preferably before the fetus develops any neural networks.

Quote:
Can't blame them for feeling that way. It's just wrong and they know it.

As another has said, "I've noticed that everyone who is for abortion has already been born."


It's not so clear cut. Look at my previous post and you'll realise that before a certain time period abortion becomes black and white with no clear cut answer. (Specifically when you perform an abortion during the blastocyst stage).
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 08:32 am
Quote:
Once again we are falling into the realms of over-simplistic arguments that really have no place in this thread. I am 22, yet I am pro-choice, not pro-abortion. However, even I believe there should be restrictions limiting abortions to early-terms preferably before the fetus develops any neural networks.


What? pro-choice....but not pro-abortion.......?
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Questioner
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 09:47 am
thunder_runner32 wrote:

What? pro-choice....but not pro-abortion.......?


Trite, yet also ineffective.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 10:59 am
How about contradictory?
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Questioner
 
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Reply Tue 13 Dec, 2005 11:22 am
thunder_runner32 wrote:
How about contradictory?

Ah, indeed so. My apologies.
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