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Is your personal beliefs or privacy worth losing your job over?

 
 
Tai Chi
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 06:58 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

You get angry customers either way. It really is a no win situation for restaurants.

Take a look at the articles in the Toronto Sun. Restaurants are not at all happy with this mandate.


Please do not believe everything -- or should I say anything? -- you read in the Toronto Sun.
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 07:01 am
@Tai Chi,
Tai Chi wrote:
Please do not believe everything -- or should I say anything? -- you read in the Toronto Sun.
Unfortunately, some just and only get their "news" from an arch-conservative and populist tabloid newspaper.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 01:17 pm
@Tai Chi,
Hmmm... TaiChi.

1) Rejecting facts you dont like based on tpolitical point of view is closed minded.

2) Questioning facts is critical thinking.

Your objection seems like the former, you seem to be rejecting this claim out of hand without any thought.

Are you claiming that there isn't resistance from restaurants to mask mandates?

Maybe you could tell me what news sources you accept and I will post from there.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 01:20 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:

Tai Chi wrote:
Please do not believe everything -- or should I say anything? -- you read in the Toronto Sun.
Unfortunately, some just and only get their "news" from an arch-conservative and populist tabloid newspaper.


Is this intended as a personal attack, Walter? I am not quite sure how to take it. It feels like a partisan backhanded slap.

The fact is I consume far more NPR than I do Fox. I don't think I need to defend myself this way. The fact that people on the political left want an ideological news filter isnt a good thing.

This is part of the reason most people on the political left are unable to even consider argument outside of a narrow ideological narrative.
roger
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 02:10 pm
@maxdancona,
I don't see this as a personal attack on anyone, and I'm sure it wasn't directed against you.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 02:13 pm
@roger,
roger wrote:

I don't see this as a personal attack on anyone, and I'm sure it wasn't directed against you.


It would be nice to hear that from Walter. Maybe it was directed at Canadians.

What bothers me is that they are focusing on the Us vs Them. Who said it now matters more than whether it is factually correct.
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Mame
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 06:07 pm
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

Walter Hinteler wrote:

Tai Chi wrote:
Please do not believe everything -- or should I say anything? -- you read in the Toronto Sun.
Unfortunately, some just and only get their "news" from an arch-conservative and populist tabloid newspaper.


Is this intended as a personal attack, Walter? I am not quite sure how to take it. It feels like a partisan backhanded slap.

The fact is I consume far more NPR than I do Fox. I don't think I need to defend myself this way. The fact that people on the political left want an ideological news filter isnt a good thing.

This is part of the reason most people on the political left are unable to even consider argument outside of a narrow ideological narrative.


Why do you always think everything's directed at you? He could have been talking about Germany's Walmart people.

And you generalize too much. That's not scientific or objective. "People on the left"... knock it off. Some people are all over the spectrum, left on some things, right on others, down the middle on others. Stop generalizing!

"The fact that people on the political left want an ideological news filter isnt a good thing." Let's think about what people on the right want. Do they listen to a different POV after they've heard what Tucker has to say? Hmm?

"Most people on the political left are unable to even consider argument(s) outside of a narrow ideological narrative."??? Where the hell do you get off making that assertion? Who are YOU talking to? Do you think most people are static and don't change their views over the years? And does that also go for the people on the right?

You sit there, pontificating on all manner of subjects, getting shot down on most of them by a smarter few here, yet you are still unable or unwilling to shift your narrative. You spout the same things, month in, month out, year in, year out. Your arguments/positions are entirely predictable, which equates to boring. Same old, same old.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 06:45 pm
@Mame,
Mame,

You represent a narrow ideology. You judge people who support your narrative as correct, and people who question your ideology as wrong no matter what the facts say. Your use of the term "shot down" is interesting, it shows your ideological bias (I bet you can't ahow an example where someone from the political left is "shot down"

You can prove me wrong simply. All I ask from you is a single non-trivial, not sarcastic example where you believe conservatives make a valid point.

So far, you have shown nothing but complete conformity to a predictable liberal narrative. And people who question this narrative make you angry.

I am stating that you are incapable of independent thought that questions a narrow ideological narrative. Go ahead, prove me wrong.
Mame
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 08:00 pm
@maxdancona,
I don't have to, and am certainly not going to, prove anything to you. You don't know me or my background or anything at all about me. You're a labeller and I detest labels, for everyone, because they're so limiting. Although 'mansplainer' kinda says it all and that's a label, lol.

You can claim anything you want to about me but since you a) don't know, and b) don't listen, and c) repeat yourself ad nauseam, and d) pontificate and think you know it all, and e) don't matter to me, it's completely irrelevant.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 08:45 pm
@Mame,
Mame, when your husband disagees with you, do you call him a "mansplainer"? The fact that you are still married may suggest that he never dares to question your opinion.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 09:24 pm
@maxdancona,
I am beginning to feel sorry for you if it was not for all the thousands of fools dying now due to their claim rights that you support not to get the shots that would in a saner world had ended this disease months ago.
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Sun 17 Oct, 2021 09:39 pm
@Mame,
Mame wrote:
Why do you always think everything's directed at you? He could have been talking about Germany's Walmart people.
Walmart was just a very short time present here.
It wasn't a personal directed post at all, but a response to Tai Chi's post.
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ManOfTruth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:10 am
Sep 20, 2019. Crazy video. Woman accurately predicts covid pandemic and mandatory vaccines before any of it happens

MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:25 am
@ManOfTruth,
Yes, for once you're right, she's crazy. viruses have spent millennia attacking us and they'll keep doing it. we should have been prepared. trump wasn't. viruses are not a conspiracy theory.
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hightor
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:44 am
Quote:
Woman accurately predicts covid pandemic and mandatory vaccines before any of it happens


I don't get why anyone thinks this woman was particularly prescient. Detailed plans have been drawn up to meet with potential public health crises previously and there had been warnings about the likelihood of a global pandemic several times in the past decade or so. In addition, anti-vaccination sentiment had been whipped up following the nationwide measles outbreak earlier in 2019. Her rant is hardly original:

Arizona Lawmaker Says Mandatory Vaccine Laws are 'Communist' Amid a Nationwide Measles Outbreak

Quote:
On Wednesday, the Republican Governor of Arizona Doug Ducey told reporters that he was “pro-vaccination” and “anti measles” and stated that he would not sign three bills passed by the Arizona state legislature designed to complicate and weaken state vaccine protocol. One of the bills would allow individuals to refuse a mandatory vaccine on religious grounds.

In response, Arizona state representative Kelly Townsend released a statement on Facebook, claiming that mandatory vaccine laws are “Communist” and expressed dismay that the people of Arizona “are prepared to give up our liberty, the very sovereignty of our body, because of measles.” After facing criticism for her remarks, Townsend reiterated her stance in a second Facebook post, claiming that required vaccinations violate individual sovereignty.

“The point is whether or not your body is sovereign or if the government can force you to be injected against your will,” Townsend said.

The Republican representative continued to express anti-vaccine sentiment in an interview with the Washington Post, attributing health problems experienced by her 22-year-old daughter to vaccines she was given as an infant. Townsend also demanded that government should focus on “discovering what in these vaccines is causing so much injury,” stating, “the problem is something is in those vaccines.”

Townsend wasn’t the only lawmaker espousing misinformation on vaccines. Texas state representative Bill Zedler is currently promoting legislation that would expand vaccine opt-outs in the state. Zedler was quoted this week saying that people don’t die from measles in the U.S. because of “antibiotics and that kind of stuff,” according to the Texas Observer. Measles is a virus, and cannot be treated with antibiotics.

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ManOfTruth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 03:29 pm
I thought that vaccines "work", so why then did fully vaxxed Colin Powell die of covid?

maxdancona
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 03:38 pm
@ManOfTruth,
ManOfTruth wrote:

I thought that vaccines "work", so why then did fully vaxxed Colin Powell die of covid?




I am going to answer this as a serious question (although it seems rather obvious).

The vaccines are 95% effective. This means that there will be a small amount of cases in fully vaccinated people.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 04:25 pm
@ManOfTruth,
ManOfTruth wrote:

I thought that vaccines "work", so why then did fully vaxxed Colin Powell die of covid?




Having last stage cancer might just have something to do with it
MontereyJack
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 05:52 pm
@BillRM,
he died of covid AND canceer. the medicos said that form of cancer badly weakens the immune system, ergo the cancer , ergo put a double whammy on powell. it csn't pfrotect everyone in every conceivable circumstance, butstudies show you're eleven times more likely to die of covid if you're unvaccinated.
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ManOfTruth
 
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Reply Mon 18 Oct, 2021 10:01 pm
True Heroism: Kyrie Irving’s incredibly noble and selfless reason to reject the beastly jab revealed…

The true reason why Kyrie Irving won't get the vaccine and lose over $200 million

Everybody’s talking about Kyrie Irving right now. The Brooklyn Nets won’t allow him to play, practice, or travel with them as he refuses to be vaccinated. The NBA season is almost underway and they’ll have to adjust to being without him.

Many people have questioned Irving’s stance on the vaccine. Some reports claim that it was all due to a conspiracy theory. Some say that he’s dumb, others laud him and respect him for taking a stand.

Whatever it’s the case, you have to have strong principles – or be incredibly stubborn – to leave $16 million (and a $187 million contract extension) on the table. So, why would he do something like that?

Kyrie Says He’s Not Anti-Vaxx But He Wants To Be A Voice For The Voiceless
According to a report by The Athletic, it’s not that Kyrie Irving doesn’t believe in the vaccine. Instead, he wants to be the voice of the voiceless and help out those who have lost their jobs due to vaccine mandates:

(Transcript via The Athletic)

“Multiple sources with direct knowledge of Irving’s decision have told The Athletic that Irving is not anti-vaccine and that his stance is that he is upset that people are losing their jobs due to vaccine mandates. It’s a stance that Irving has explained to close teammates. To him, this is about a grander fight than the one on the court and Irving is challenging a perceived control of society and people’s livelihood, according to sources with knowledge of Irving’s mindset. It is a decision that he believes he is capable to make given his current life dynamics. “Kyrie wants to be a voice for the voiceless,” one source said.”

People will continue to talk and judge Kyrie, and you can’t blame them, as there always seems to be a story with him. Then again, he just made a choice and we’ll have no choice but to deal with it and move on.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/the-true-reason-why-kyrie-irving-won-t-get-the-vaccine-and-lose-over-200-million/ar-AAPD4WQ
 

 
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