7
   

Water Surplus and Drought by Region

 
 
gollum
 
Reply Sun 29 Aug, 2021 05:28 pm
Some areas in the U.S. have excess water while others have a drought. Is it practicable to run a hose between the regions especially if the drought area is at a lower elevation? It might at least partly address the water shortage.
  • Topic Stats
  • Top Replies
  • Link to this Topic
Type: Question • Score: 7 • Views: 1,892 • Replies: 58
No top replies

 
engineer
 
  2  
Reply Sun 29 Aug, 2021 07:01 pm
@gollum,
You could, but the problem is that water costs about a dollar fifty per thousand gallons. At that price, no way you can build pipelines and pay to ship the water. If you ask people to pay $0.10 a gallon for water they would freak out.
maxdancona
 
  1  
Reply Sun 29 Aug, 2021 08:30 pm
@gollum,
There is a group that is proposing just such a water pipeline for California.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 02:55 am
I have long been in favor of equipping the Michigan Volunteer Defense Force with Pershing and Tomahawk missiles so they can fire on other states who might try to take our water for themselves.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 03:03 am
@oralloy,
You want a civil war just like your master Putin.

Who would want Michigan’s **** awful water, it’s mostly lead and is responsible for turning out morons like you.

You can lie about your bogus IQ all you want, but everyone you meet thinks you’re stupid, everyone.

It’s called the wisdom of crowds.
izzythepush
 
  2  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 03:12 am
@engineer,
Would they?

Americans already pay for bottled tap water which is why Coca Cola thought they could try that **** over here.

Dasani is tap water, and when people found that out they went mental.

We don’t pay for bottled tap water over here, if it’s bottled we expect it to be from some protected mineral source, not the tap.

Dasani has an annual turnover just shy of a billion dollars. That’s a billion dollars for something only Americans would pay for.
engineer
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 05:42 am
@izzythepush,
Yes, it's stupid to pay for bottled tap water, but that is a pint at a time. We're talking 80-100 gallons of usage daily per person.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:38 am
@engineer,
People have to pay to have water supplied to their homes, that will still be the case if prices shoot up.

Either they’ll cut down on baths and laundry or the state will have to subsidise it.
engineer
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:44 am
@izzythepush,
True, but that is why there is not going to be a massive effort to pump water across the country. The people don't want to pay, either directly or through taxes.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:46 am
@engineer,
So people will go without.
engineer
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:48 am
@izzythepush,
Or move away. There is no need to populate every stretch of the US. Most of the country is empty as it is.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:51 am
@engineer,
I suppose so, that’s not much of an option over here, but we’re not exactly short of water.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 06:53 am
@izzythepush,
Then there’s the problem of farming land turning into desert. Rich oil producing Gulf states have already been buying up farming land in Africa.
0 Replies
 
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 08:20 am
@izzythepush,
Wter supplies with lead and copper are basically the result of the pipe lines not the water source. The water has a lower pH which allows dissolution of heavy metals and, because Flint chose NOT to do final treatment with the Ca Orthophosphate (chelation agents), the water went right into lead joint pipes. Ive seen so much of the crap in UKs canals and rivers I wouldnt feel so smug.
Flint was an exampl of criminal negligence in a singl spot. (I can recall many other earlier similar problems in NJ , NY and Calif ,As well as some western cities. where merely changing over to PVC piping solved much of the post treatmnt distribution.)

Almost every bottld water sold on the planet i somones municipal supply, even the vaunted " Perrier" uses municipally licensed "Source " wells where the fizz is actually added from a totally different CO2 location.(It us to be ntural yars ago) Our Poland Springs water is one of the few where the source and the fizz are actually natural

Ive had lots of xperience in locating, developing, and licensing "spring and natural" waters 25 yers ago when the markt was warming up.
One brand I find funny. Its a French water whose sources include US volcanic prings with S free CO@ mined and bottled from a series of deep carbonate rich mines.
If we knew the market recipes , we would not want to drink most of thi ****.

Dasani is at least honest about marking its location on its containers.

izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 09:05 am
@farmerman,
I don’t drink water from the canal or out of the river.

The River Itchen has salmon, well sought after salmon.

I wasn’t being smug, our tap water is of high quality which is why bottled tap water was always a no go over here.

Americans do buy bottled tap water because the quality varies from state to state.
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 10:17 am
@izzythepush,
Try being a bit more realistic and objctive. We have quality rules in Pa that probably exceed anywhere else, yet somehow we can buy the same worldwide crap that you can, and we still uncover entire cities water supplies where lead pipes exist. Hell we hve cities where the underground water pipes are still made of wood and I KNOW several cities in th EU where this is as it is in 2021.

Until fairly recently youre countries have had a Pb an Cu pipe problem(its been there ever since the Roman occupation.)UK only had lead pipe bans in effect for only about 25 years n you still have lead soldered joints. The reason Flint Mich came to the news is because its a damn criminal act to poison people since the lead copper rules wre in effect since the NIXON years. States have had Pb rules well bfore the EPA.
Please dont lecture about lead rules till you guys clean up your own pipe joints,. Most of the woorldwide bottled waters re first de-carbonated, then pH adjusted and final polished to get rid of the lad and copper and Chrome, and Uranium, and Radon, and Manganese, and arsenic (These are all naturally occuring elements allll over the world -UK is not magically "hheavy -metal free' unless you actually clean up and polish the water.) THEN you put the carbonation back (and most of it comes from sources other than \ the water's . The word NATURAL is meaningless in both bottled and piped water
Walter Hinteler
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 11:24 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
Until fairly recently youre countries have had a Pb an Cu pipe problem(its been there ever since the Roman occupation.)UK only had lead pipe bans in effect for only about 25 years n you still have lead soldered joints.
Lead pipes, as said, were already used by the Romans. Lead is soft and easy to shape, and it can be soldered at low temperatures.
However: as early as the 18th century, Duke Carl of Württemberg warned that lead could make people and animals ill. And in 1878, lead pipes were then banned in Württemberg and Bavaria, but only in 1973 in the last German state.

farmerman wrote:
Most of the woorldwide bottled waters re first de-carbonated, then pH adjusted and final polished to get rid of the lad and copper and Chrome, and Uranium, and Radon, and Manganese, and arsenic
Whilst mineral water was first discovered by the Greeks, later adopted by the Romans, it only really took off when two German water companies started to make mineral spring water less of a luxury, and more accessible for the everyday German.: Selters and Fachingen. And beside those two, we've roughly 600 more mineral water sources in Germany.

Most of the mineral springs in Germany are naturally carbonated.

Mineral water is, by law, completely unaltered and unfiltered (with the exception of carbonation) water taken directly from a spring. It includes, thanks to the lack of filtration, a number of dissolved solids, which might include calcium, magnesium, and various salts. It might also contain dissolved carbon, which can make it effervescent.

In 2020, roughly 133.8 liters of mineral were consumed per capita in Germany.
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 12:12 pm
@farmerman,
We have very hard water in the South.

And copper pipes.

We’re no longer in the EU, haven’t you heard?

Oralloy is a result of the drinking water in Michigan.

Try arguing against that.
farmerman
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 12:23 pm
@izzythepush,
when is UK gonna get rid ofALL the lead in the pipe joints
izzythepush
 
  1  
Reply Mon 30 Aug, 2021 12:24 pm
@farmerman,
How much of a problem is it?

And how the **** should I know?

The Flint water scandal was in America, if you know of a comparable water scandal over here please enlighten us.

As it is, you’re just throwing mud, while refusing to defend most of America, just Philadelphia’s, whoop de doo.
 

Related Topics

 
  1. Forums
  2. » Water Surplus and Drought by Region
Copyright © 2024 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.03 seconds on 04/20/2024 at 06:56:33