The Military Budget

@izzythepush,

Thank you very much.

It just came to me.

@izzythepush,

Seriously, they just announced the end of our fighting in Iraq, after announcing in August the end of it in Afghanistan. But did you notice they are leaving some troops in both countries after that?

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@oralloy,

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Does this mean that the coward is going to abandon South Korea as well?

You mean like Trump wanted to do?

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@edgarblythe,

They’ve still got them here, and the Nazis were defeated in 1945.

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@izzythepush,

Yeah, but aren't attacking Germans with drones. That I know about.

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@edgarblythe,

There’s just been an explosion in Leverkusen.

Seriously though, it was the bombing of Tripoli from a UK airbase by Reagan with no parliamentary oversight that did it for me.

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My personal military experience, followed closely by the Vietnam debacle, made me almost totally anti-war. I can understand defense of home and family, but not the adventurism of the military-industrial crowd.

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@edgarblythe,

Eisenhower pointed out the perils of the Industrial Military Complex, and things have hardly changed in the meantime.

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@izzythepush,

Yes. I didn't appreciate Eisenhower that much when he was in office, but in retrospect, he was better than most of our presidents.

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@edgarblythe,

I wasn’t alive when he was in office.

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@izzythepush,

I don't recall Roosevelt, but my Mom always listened to Truman's speeches on the radio. She got a kick out of his mild use of swear words, which caused the networks to cut off the coverage.

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@edgarblythe,

The first American President I can remember is Richard Nixon.

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@izzythepush,

He's a hell of an introduction to American presidents.

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@edgarblythe,

I was less than a year old when Kennedy was assassinated and I don’t remember Johnson at all.

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@izzythepush,

I was five. We were living in Budigen, Germany because my dad was stationed at a little Army base there. My sister tells me that she remembers dad being real upset about hearing about the assassination on the radio. I don’t remember anything about that.

I do have vivid memories of when Bobby Kennedy was killed. I was eleven.

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@izzythepush,

By the time Kennedy died I was in the military, but that day on leave in Texas. It frightened the **** out of me to contemplate a President Johnson. I didn't like or trust him before he was vice president. The day he was selected by Kennedy I felt a dark premonition.

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@edgarblythe,

My mother always believed and said that Johnson was in cahoots with JFK’s killers.

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@snood,

She was probably right. I've read a story by a man who thinks George Bush was there when it happened. Bush was CIA or something at the time. I don't say this stuff as ironclad fact because I don't spend my time researching it.

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@snood,

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My mother always believed and said that Johnson was in cahoots with JFK’s killers.

That was the first thing that occurred to some people upon hearing the news. LBJ was a complex guy; some of his qualities were commendable, some despicable. But whatever his transgressions, I honestly believe that a murderous act of treason was not one of them. He had JFK killed so he could enact the most sweeping social legislation since FDR? I don't think so.

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@snood,

One thing that makes it stand out over here was that it happened just before the first episode of Doctor Who, which was broadcast live back then.

All the interviews with the original cast are about having to act just after hearing about the shooting.

It’s one of those unfortunate coincidences, you can’t talk about the history of Doctor Who without talking about the assassination of JFK.

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