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"Mechanical engineers design and build the mechanical related aspects of engines"
Dear sir
Above it is written Mechanical related aspects and not mechanical aspects
Mechanical aspects are pistons, crankshaft, valves, etc
Mechanical related aspects are engine management computer, engine block and structure, fuel mixture, etc.
Am I right in thinking the following "mechanical related aspects" of an engine, encompasses both the mechanical aspects and the mechanical related aspects this means it includes pistons, crankshaft, valves fom first one.as well as engine management computer, engine block and structure, fuel mixture, etc
Looking forward to your response.
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Brendan Menezes

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Your assumptions about what "mechanical aspects" and "mechanical related aspects" are too specific, and obviously divergent from the meaning of the writer.

By "related aspects," he simply means anything that has to do with mechanical parts, inclusive.

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I have my problems with mechanical-related as I stated in this post. Stuh is correct that you shouldn't try to make a distinction between one or the other, but I'll go further to say that mechanical-related is, in the strictest sense, just wrong and in more forgiving terms, just unnecessary.

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Dear Stuh, can you explain what you mean when you say thet my assumpotiuons are too specific i cannot understand, i have simply explained wht each stands for how can that divert fron the true meaning.

Also when you say "by"related aspects," he simply means anything that has to do with mechanical parts, inclusive. " do you mean by "inclusive" that he means anything to do with mechanical parts and mechanical parts itself.
Loooking forward to your reply
Regrads
Brendan

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Dear Stuh, can you explain what you mean when you say thet my assumpotiuons are too specific i cannot understand, i have simply explained wht each stands for how can that divert fron the true meaning.

Sure, Brendan. The words "aspects" and "related" are very general, and could be used to mean different things. You have assumed that they mean some very specific things, but the author clearly did not mean them, because they don't make any sense.

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Also when you say "by"related aspects," he simply means anything that has to do with mechanical parts, inclusive. " do you mean by "inclusive" that he means anything to do with mechanical parts and mechanical parts itself.

When I said "anything to do with mechanical parts, inclusive" I mean that this description refers to the set of things that have to do with mechanical parts, as well as mechanical parts themselves.

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Dear Stuh,

I said that "does the mechanical related aspects , encompasses both the mechanical aspects and the mechanical related aspects

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When I said "anything to do with mechanical parts, inclusive" I mean that this description refers to the set of things that have to do with mechanical parts, as well as mechanical parts themselves.

. " I cannot see how this description of mechanical "related" parts refers to the set of things that have to do with both the mechanical parts, as well as mechanical parts themselves": I would think they would refer only to mecahnical related parts

can you please explain how this is so?

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BY mechanical "related" parts i mean what you have titled "refers to the set of things that have to do with the mechanical parts"
regards brendan

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"Mechanical engineers design and build the mechanical related aspects of engines"

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I cannot see how this description of mechanical "related" parts refers to the set of things that have to do with both the mechanical parts, as well as mechanical parts themselves": I would think they would refer only to mecahnical related parts

Firstly, it should be mechanically rather than mechanical.

The sentence clearly says that mechanical engineers build the parts which are related to mechanics.

For instance, a piston is related to mechanics.

The sentence also implies that there are aspects of the engine which are not mechanical, that are designed by other engineers. I would imagine an example of this might be the coolant channels in the engine block becuase this has more to do with fluid dynamics.

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When I said "anything to do with mechanical parts, inclusive" I mean that this description refers to the set of things that have to do with mechanical parts, as well as mechanical parts themselves

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The sentence clearly says that mechanical engineers build the parts which are related to mechanics.

For instance, a piston is related to mechanics

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can you say from this piston is a mechanical part itself

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The sentence also implies that there are aspects of the engine which are not mechanical, that are designed by other engineers. I would imagine an example of this might be the coolant channels in the engine block becuase this has more to do with fluid dynamics

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can you say that these which are not mechanical parts but have to do with mechanical parts

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Why don't you stop quibbling and do some thinking on your own? It's really not very confusing. I feel I've laid it all out for you.

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Dear Sir,
with the risk of annoying you i would like to write what reply i got form another forum engineersedge.com ([email protected]) in reply to my question of what is the differance between mechanical and mechanical related design.
(I think there is a slight difference. Let me illustrate:

If you were to work on all of the "mechanical aspects" of an engine, you'd work
on the pistons, crankshaft, valves, etc.

If you were to work on all of the "mechanical related aspects" of an engine,
you'd work on the above plus the engine management computer, engine block and
structure, fuel mixture, etc.

The first sentence in my example deals with only mechanical items. The second
deals with electrical, structural and chemical items, but they are "related" to
the mechanical system.

Do you see the difference?)

regards
brendan

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brendanmenezes wrote:

The first sentence in my example deals with only mechanical items. The second deals with electrical, structural and chemical items, but they are "related" to the mechanical system.

With all due respect to the engineer, you posted this on an English forum and should have expected a language-related answer. I will repeat myself as clearly as I can; when you combine another word with related to form a compound adjective (such as language-related in the previous sentence) that word should be a noun and it should generally be hyphenated. Mechanical is an adjective which means "related to mechanics" and, when combined with related, makes about as much sense as speedy-related. Mechanically related is not appropriate because mechanically is an adverb and it would modify related as if something were related to something else in a mechanical fashion.

The way to make it clear that something is related to a mechanical item (but is not a mechanical item itself) would be to refer to it as mechanical-systems related or mechanical-items related. While this may seem to require too much effort for some engineers and seem laughably rigid or baseless for descriptive language scholars, the confusion created in you by the use of mechanical-related may be sufficient to justify its use. I hope this helps and that we can close this surprisingly contentious topic.

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