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The job of Philosophy

 
 
Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sat 7 Nov, 2020 11:25 pm
How much Philosophy is going on here eh? The nuance and the irony is staggering!

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2020 08:49 am
Wow! So you have gone to google, and you have found hours and hours of weird Philosophical musings on the question of "Whether mathematics is invented or discovered"?

The Question is So What? This question might be interesting, but it is completely irrelevant to what mathematicians actually do. Most Mathematicians don't care and don't need to care.

Without this philsophical questions, mathematics finds cures for diseases, makes airplanes fly, runs your computer, keeps the economy going... almost every aspect of modern life is controlled by the human understanding of mathematics. No one needs to care about the philosophy.

There exact one place that I can think of where this question matters. That is the search for extraterrestrial life. In the 1970s we sent interstellar spacecraft and wanted to send a message to whatever sentient life found this record of humanity. Obviously you can't say "Hello Aliens... how are you?".

So we made some assumptions that any sentient species that made it to space would understand the same mathematics. And so we created sequences that Human Mathematicians assumed that Alien Mathematicians would look for.... the prime numbers was one idea. When we listen for Alien messages from space, these are the patterns we are looking for.

Of course, in this case the assumption is that mathematics is not human but can form a universal language that any species at our level of advancement or higher would understand.

This is the only case I can think of where this philosophical musing is of any consequence. Of course, when we meet an actual alien... this will become a scientific question and the philosophical musings will be even more meaningless.
htam9876
 
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Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2020 05:05 pm
@maxdancona,
Oh Dear, what piggy suggested ahead was the situation in the football gym rather than the situation on the Big Rest bed.
Did you hear that a fat lady kicked her husband in the butt? Why?
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Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2020 07:36 pm
@maxdancona,
As usual you missed the point Max and no it is not about whether maths is invented or discovered. And you know what, I will just leave ya in the dark because it gives me a sort of guilty pleasure that some few souls know exactly what was the point but you and the likes will never guess it. Aux revoirs mon ami! Wink

I can already picture your reply...
maxdancona
 
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Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2020 08:20 pm
@Albuquerque,
Max: Philosophy is irrelevant to Physicists or Mathematicians when doing Physics or Mathematics.

Albuquerque: You missed the point. I will just "leave ya in the dark".

I guess I am OK with being in the dark with something that is irrelevant. It seems like we have reached a point that we are both comfortable.

Albuquerque
 
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Reply Sun 8 Nov, 2020 09:31 pm
@maxdancona,
Go back and watch the videos in slow motion and do some rewinding if needed be Max and than check back on what is relevant and not relevant. Hope that helps mate! Laughing
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crackedhead
 
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Reply Tue 10 Nov, 2020 12:07 am
Seriously...philosophy is the subjective and objective "part of us" trying to explain the subjective and objective "part of us". I think it's time for everyone to admit that we exist in both a subject and objective reality where things are real outside of us just as much as they are real inside of us. Learning is a good example. We learn outside of ourselves just as much as we learn inside of ourselves. Or we can keep saying reality is nothing but a personal construct, or a for sure solid objective thing, or a multiverse, or God's creation. Either way we make the truth unknowable thanks to the "part of us."
htam9876
 
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Reply Tue 10 Nov, 2020 08:23 am
@crackedhead,
No bad comment.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Tue 10 Nov, 2020 05:53 pm
The only "truth" is "touching the elephant".
Subjective + objective.
Touchy and feely.
crackedhead
 
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Reply Wed 11 Nov, 2020 09:38 pm
@htam9876,
Touchy and feely, really and really.
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htam9876
 
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Reply Mon 16 Nov, 2020 06:53 pm
Piggy doesn’t know when the local dark lords of the Jiangmen city will shout: “excute!”, and then, piggy disappears forever in this cosmos (either be murdered disguisedly or confined again as a half – self payment watchman in one of their small business or isolated entirely from the outside world). Really and really. Piggy is sure.
Subjectively, it’s reasonable because it is in conformity with the interest of their cabal.
Objectively, 给他江门地方黑恶势力钟永康集团及新会一中九一四班谁谁一个超文革赛阎王光荣称号快快全世界全宇宙打靶啦。当今时代,全世界没有什么人能够值得如此殊荣。呵呵
No matter what happens, guys go ahead, touchy and feely.
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