Peaceful Demonstrations

Even if it is a thousand (as Brandon suggests), I don't see how it matters to the tens of thousands of people demonstrating peacefully.

This seems like a silly debate to me.

Even if it is a thousand (as Brandon suggests), I don't see how it matters to the tens of thousands of people demonstrating peacefully.

This seems like a silly debate to me.

maxdancona wrote:

Even if it is a thousand (as Brandon suggests), I don't see how it matters to the tens of thousands of people demonstrating peacefully.

This seems like a silly debate to me.

Agreed. But it was mentioned...and I'd like to hear his argument.

Frank Apisa wrote:

maxdancona wrote:

Even if it is a thousand (as Brandon suggests), I don't see how it matters to the tens of thousands of people demonstrating peacefully.

This seems like a silly debate to me.

Agreed. But it was mentioned...and I'd like to hear his argument.

My argument is that there have been large scale incidents of crime during the protests all over the country, business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with gunes. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned. I've linked in the news articles showing that in this and other threads. Intuitively, that strikes me as more people involved than just hundreds.

...In any case, if you are going to assert that a particular "case can be made"...best to make it rather than just assert it.

...business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with guns. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned....

Frank Apisa wrote:

...In any case, if you are going to assert that a particular "case can be made"...best to make it rather than just assert it.

Had you bothered to read my post, you'd know that I said a strong plausibility argument can be made that the number of people involved in the commission of crimes during the protests is at least 1000. Do you deny that any of the things I said happened really did?

Brandon9000 wrote:

...business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with guns. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned....

If you think that one of these didn't happen, tell me which one, because I think that this does make a strong plausibility argument that the number of people involved must be at least a thousand. Go ahead and play your game. I'll win anyway because I'm right.

Here are is some documentation of crimes committed during the protests:

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/underground-atlanta-says-was-beaten-suspected-looters/2hLvEPoXN953OOI39SbE3J/

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/man-beaten-in-viral-video-while-defending-neighborhood-during-riots-in-stable-condition-police-say

https://world.wng.org/2020/05/dallas_riots_leave_volunteers_businesses_to_clean_up_the_mess

https://time.com/5849888/st-louis-captain-david-dorn-suspect-arrested/

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-protests-armed-guards-local-businesses-extortion

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Brandon9000 wrote:

...business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with guns. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned....

I read your post, Brandon. I wish you had read what you wrote.

You said a particular case could be made.

I merely said...so make it.

Frank Apisa wrote:

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Brandon9000 wrote:

...business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with guns. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned....

Frank Apisa wrote:

I read your post, Brandon. I wish you had read what you wrote.

You said a particular case could be made.

Here is what I said:

"I think one could make a strong plausibility argument that the number of people participating in violence is at least one thousand"

This is at:

https://able2know.org/topic/549168-3#post-7024010

Frank Apisa wrote:

I merely said...so make it.

I've just made a perfectly adequate plausibility argument:

1. There have been business set on fire, hundreds of stores looted, cops murdered, numerous people attempting to rush the White House multiple times, people declaring a separate country within Seattle and patrolling it with guns. In Manhattan alone, hundreds of shops were looted or burned.

This sounds like probably more than hundreds.

2. I included five links to specific incidents of violence.

The combination of these two is a strong plausibility argument that it was more than hundreds. You can say it isn't as much as you want, but it is.