Peaceful Demonstrations

@Brandon9000,

I’m not in Seattle. I don’t know what’s going on which is why I look to a content provider that is fit to broadcast in the UK.

Fox News is a far right website that is not fit to broadcast over here.

I don’t read Fox News or any other neo Nazi website because I have much better things to do.

The fact that you cannot find a legitimate website to support your delusions says it all.

I defy you to find anything wrong inPress TV’s output for that matter.

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@Brandon9000,

Quote:

tell me specifically what you think is false.

A fool, seeking to equate peaceful demonstration with violent thuggery and looting when peaceful demonstrators are from both sides of the political spectrum, is what is false.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Peaceful demonstrations didn't go over very well with conservatives either.

... just saying.

Exactly!

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@izzythepush,

BBC Fake News wrote:

Earlier this month, when protests were spreading across the US, Mr Trump threatened to send in the US Army if state governors - who oversee law and order - were unable to guarantee safety and secure property on their streets.

This would involve invoking the Insurrection Act, a 19th Century law which includes details of circumstances when the government in Washington DC can intervene without state authorisation.

The act says the approval of governors is not required when the president determines the situation in a state makes it impossible to enforce US laws, or when citizens' rights are threatened.

Better for the President to take control of the National Guard than to send in the Army. But otherwise, let's do it!

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Peaceful demonstrations didn't go over very well with conservatives either.

... just saying.

That's because they were calling for police officers to be prevented from defending themselves whenever a black person tries to murder them.

That's not the sort of thing that conservatives approve of.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Do you support the peaceful protests?

I support people's right to peacefully protest for whatever they want.

But if they are peacefully protesting for something really ugly like "allowing black people to murder police officers" I also think that it is reasonable to condemn them for their hideous agenda.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

There are thousands of peaceful protests that are taking part across the country. I know this personally.

When you say there is a "huge amount of crime"...

1. I think it is irrelevant. Crime does not invalidate peaceful protests.

2. I think the great majority of protests are peaceful. When you say "huge amount of crime" what percentage of protesters are we talking about.

3. My daughter and I arent criminals, and we certainly didn't loot anything. Nor did we see any inappropriate behavior in the protests we attended.

Well, for example:

But it was not enough to stop rampant looters from taking over midtown Manhattan. The Daily Beast witnessed hundreds of rioters roaming freely for hours through the city, looting countless stores, setting fires, loading stolen goods into SUVs, and damaging cars and storefronts. For hours, police were nowhere to be seen.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/cuomo-openly-hypothesizes-about-overthrowing-bill-de-blasio-after-rampant-looting-in-new-york-city

or in L.A.:

In the downtown loft district, jewelry stores were hit. One person offered a reporter a handful of stolen jewelry. A nearby CVS pharmacy was looted, as were other businesses elsewhere in the city.

Some pleaded with demonstrators not to damage their cars parked on the street. Almost every wall on a building was tagged with profanity and anti-police statements

Fireworks were set off on the streets, the sparks hitting buildings. The smoke filled the air and protesters became looters, breaking into stores stealing tennis shoes, clothing and electronic items such as televisions screens and speakers.

Demonstrators broke into jewelry stores, rushing in and smashing display cases and taking anything that may have been left out. Jewelry lay on the sidewalk and street and people stopped to scoop up some of it, others began distributing to other people or telling others where to go loot.

“You need tennis shoes? Just go up the street, you can get whatever you want,” one man told another.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-30/looters-attack-restaurant-downtown-los-angeles-george-floyd

Why don't you know this?

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Do you support the peaceful protests?

Yes, although I think the charge of systemic racism is grossly exaggerated. Are you trying to change the discussion away from whether or not there was rampant violence? It seems as though you only oppose the violence as minimally as possible when absolutely forced to and then try to change the subject.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I’m not in Seattle. I don’t know what’s going on which is why I look to a content provider that is fit to broadcast in the UK.

Fox News is a far right website that is not fit to broadcast over here.

I don’t read Fox News or any other neo Nazi website because I have much better things to do.

The fact that you cannot find a legitimate website to support your delusions says it all.

I defy you to find anything wrong inPress TV’s output for that matter.

I never claimed there was anything wrong with Press TV's output. However, you have claimed that there's something wrong with Fox, yet cannot cite a single thing in the Fox article that isn't accurate.

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@nacredambition,

nacredambition wrote:

Quote:
tell me specifically what you think is false.

A fool, seeking to equate peaceful demonstration with violent thuggery and looting when peaceful demonstrators are from both sides of the political spectrum, is what is false.

Apparently, you also cannot come up with anything reported in the article that is false.

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@Brandon9000,

They don’t lose their broadcast licence for nothing. Press TV has lost its as well. It’s not a reliable source either.

RTL doesn’t fall foul of regulations. RTL is less full of **** than Fox and,Iranian, Press T V. And RTL is full to brimming.

That’s the illustrious club Fox is in, just Fox and Iran. That’s two, that’s a pretty exclusive club.

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@izzythepush,

BBC Fake News has an established history of outright lies.

I'm not sure why you think your unsubstantiated accusations against Fox News have any credibility, but they don't.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

They don’t lose their broadcast licence for nothing. Press TV has lost its as well. It’s not a reliable source either.

RTL doesn’t fall foul of regulations. RTL is less full of **** than Fox and,Iranian, Press T V. And RTL is full to brimming.

That’s the illustrious club Fox is in, just Fox and Iran. That’s two, that’s a pretty exclusive club.

Find me one thing in the Fox article which started this conversation that isn't true.

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@Brandon9000,

I’ve not read it, nor do I intend to. It’s not reliable.

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@Brandon9000,

Brandon9000 wrote:

And if you're going to say, I don't have to believe it because the article is on Fox, tell me specifically what you think is false.

Well, for starters, Fox IS fake...

Fox News removes altered photos of Seattle protest zone

By ASSOCIATED PRESS |
PUBLISHED: June 13, 2020 at 1:12 p.m. | UPDATED: June 13, 2020 at 4:26 p.m.

SEATTLE (AP) — Fox News has removed digitally altered photos from its website after the Seattle Times noted misleading images used in the network’s coverage about a Seattle neighborhood that’s become a protest center against police brutality and racial injustice.

The Seattle Times reports Fox News’ website featured at least two photos on Friday that inserted an image of a man standing with a military-style rifle, and that there were no disclaimers on how they were manipulated when featured on the network’s website for most of the day Friday.

The image of the gunman is from a Getty Images photo that was taken on June 10 at what is known as the “Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone” protest area. The original photo showed an unidentified man wearing a green mask who was carrying a weapon while standing in front of a car.

The Seattle Times said Fox’s website used that gunman image for the network’s coverage of the protest zone, but the image was included in a mashup of other photos from May 30 that depicted smashed windows in downtown Seattle — before the protest zone was set up and in a different neighborhood.

The Seattle Times said Fox took down the photos after the newspaper inquired and a Fox News spokeswoman acknowledged the issue in a statement that falsely claimed all photos were from the same week and the same location.

“We have replaced our photo illustration with the clearly delineated images of a gunman and a shattered storefront,” the Fox statement read in part.

The standards of journalism require photo illustrations to be clearly marked, and caution against using photos from different times and locations unless they are clearly marked because it can be misleading to the reader or viewer.

The gunman image was also inserted into a different June 10 Getty Images photo showing a sign from the protest zone that reads: “YOU ARE NOW ENTERING FREE CAP HILL.”

The gunman and sign photos were taken by Seattle freelance photographer David Ryder, who then distributed the photo through Getty Images.

“It is definitely Photoshopped,” Ryder told the Seattle Times. “To use a photo out of context in a journalistic setting like that seems unethical.”

The Seattle Times also reported that Fox’s package of stories on Seattle’s protest zone included a May 30 photo taken by an Associated Press photographer depicting a burning building and car that was in St. Paul, Minnesota. Fox has also since removed that image.

The Capitol Hill protest zone east of downtown Seattle has evolved this week into a festival-like scene after police on June 8 removed barricades near the East Precinct and largely abandoned the station in an effort to de-escalate tensions between officers and demonstrators.

The largely peaceful zone has drawn the ire of President Donald Trump, who fumed on Twitter that the city had been taken over by “anarchists.”

Meanwhile, a U.S. judge on Friday ordered Seattle police to temporarily stop using tear gas, pepper spray and flash-bang devices to break up largely peaceful protests.

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@Brandon9000,

Ok... so in the DailyBeast, which has an interest in sensational stories, they talk about "hundreds of rioters" in New York.

Are you claiming that we are talking about more than hundreds of people? I don't deny that this happened. I didn't take part in anything like this.

But your "hundreds of rioters" don't really compare to the tens of thousands of peaceful protesters, do they.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

Well, for starters, Fox IS fake...

BBC News is fake.

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@izzythepush,

izzythepush wrote:

I’ve not read it, nor do I intend to. It’s not reliable.

Yeah, you keep claiming that, but cannot provide a speck of evidence. All you would have to do is find anything at all in the article I linked in that isn't accurate, but you can't. Apparently you claim the right to rove the board claiming anything you want to but providing no evidence that anything you say is true. Okay, have fun, but no one should take you seriously.

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@neptuneblue,

neptuneblue wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
And if you're going to say, I don't have to believe it because the article is on Fox, tell me specifically what you think is false.

Well, for starters, Fox IS fake...

All you have to do is present anything at all in the article I linked in that's not accurate, but you can't.

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@maxdancona,

maxdancona wrote:

Ok... so in the DailyBeast, which has an interest in sensational stories, they talk about "hundreds of rioters" in New York.

Are you claiming that we are talking about more than hundreds of people? I don't deny that this happened. I didn't take part in anything like this.

But your "hundreds of rioters" don't really compare to the tens of thousands of peaceful protesters, do they.

I never claimed there were as many people breaking the law as protesting peacefully. I claim that there are a lot of people breaking the law. Here is something going on now in Atlanta:

9:38 p.m.
Protesters have broken out the windows of the Wendy’s where Rayshard Brooks was killed and set fire to the inside.

9:08 p.m.
Protesters have shut down all lanes of the southbound downtown connector at University Avenue.

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/protesters-take-atlanta-streets-3rd-weekend-after-death-black-man-hands-apd/E4AMA3EGXNG75F5WFZCO5X6SQ4/

Here's another one about stores vandalized and robbed in the Bronx:

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/ny-bronx-businesses-protests-20200607-hittsbw3o5f7pmixydbvlfdjj4-story.html

Here's another one about a health food store that was set on fire in Minneapolis:

https://www.startribune.com/third-person-charged-with-burning-st-paul-health-store-during-riots-over-george-floyd-s-death/571171792/

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