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Why scientists are studying chloroquine

 
 
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 10:57 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:
that the early results for hydroxychloroquine looked promising, is largely responsible for the death of the moron who drank pool cleaner
ACtually those "early reports"were not only questionable, they were a bit fraudulent. And for the president to jump on some kind of stupid bandwagon is reprehensible. He is offering advice ( more or less) to those not able to understand how "safety " has to be up there with "efficacy" ever since the Thalidomide years.
Trump used words like "This could be a game changer",or Its "very exciting news".
Yeh, hes gotta bear some heavy responsibility. He should have just kept his big fat mouth shut. Of course, when has he ever done that in 3.3 years. besides his more criminal talents,Hes an ego maniac and you have faith in him yet?


Trump always works to make everything all about Trump, the weak follow along, they can not resist.

Keep this in mind if you should choose to keep yapping about Trump.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 11:00 pm
@coldjoint,
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I do not think Democrats want any medical progress
Still have your had up your ass. Its the GOP that is the party that is wholly ANTI_SCIENCE and that is a fact.
hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 11:04 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

Quote:

I do not think Democrats want any medical progress
Still have your had up your ass. Its the GOP that is the party that is wholly ANTI_SCIENCE and that is a fact.


It is the scientists who allowed science to get so corrupted.

They also have a lot to do with the university failing.

OOPS!
farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 11:13 pm
@hawkeye10,
what university is "failing in science"?. Why then ,do so many foreign countries still try to send their best to our universities for technical educations? Apparently they dont believe your views of the "truth".

hawkeye10
 
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Reply Tue 21 Apr, 2020 11:16 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

what university is "failing in science"?. Why then ,do so many foreign countries still try to send their best to our universities for technical educations? Apparently they dont believe your views of the "truth".




For a allegedly educated person you dont read very well..... I said that scientists are responsible for allowing the corruption of science, and they are partly responsible for the failure of the University.

Now, can you come up with some smart response?
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 08:19 am
@hawkeye10,
Fortunately I dont have to come up with anything too smart to address your questions .And yes, I asked you to name me one University (besides TRUMP UNIVERSITY), that is failing??? IT all goes together you know. We have a lotta Nobel Prize winners from our "failed universities"

Or are you just using the term "failing" like Trump does, (his is certainly a sign of a limited working vocabulary). Give answers , win prizes
hightor
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 11:49 am
@farmerman,
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And yes, I asked you to name me one University (besides TRUMP UNIVERSITY), that is failing???

Falwell's Liberty University!
Setanta
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 11:50 am
@hightor,
Good news!
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 04:06 pm
@hightor,
AHH yes, good ole Liberty U, where the entire biology program is not fully accredited by its regional accreditation board.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 04:25 pm
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Doctor Says He Was Removed After Questioning Drug Promoted by Trump

The doctor who led the federal agency involved in developing a coronavirus vaccine said on Wednesday that he was
removed from his post after he pressed for a rigorous vetting of a coronavirus treatment embraced by President Trump.
The doctor said that science, not “politics and cronyism,” must lead the way.

Dr. Rick Bright was abruptly dismissed this week as the director of the Department of Health and Human Services’
Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority, or BARDA, and as the deputy assistant secretary for
preparedness and response.

Instead, he was given a narrower job at the National Institutes of Health. “I believe this transfer was in response to my
insistence that the government invest the billions of dollars allocated by Congress to address the Covid-19 pandemic
into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit,”
he said in a statement to The New York Times’s Maggie Haberman.

“I am speaking out because to combat this deadly virus, science — not politics or cronyism — has to lead the way,” he said.
(nyt)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 22 Apr, 2020 04:27 pm
@Region Philbis,
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Doctor Says He Was Removed After Questioning Drug Promoted by Trump

**** happens, think of Obama when he purged our military.
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Region Philbis
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 10:57 am
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FDA warns of risks with Trump-promoted malaria drug

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is warning doctors against prescribing a malaria drug
widely touted by President Donald Trump for treating the new coronavirus outside of hospitals
or research settings.

In an alert Friday, regulators flagged reports of serious side effects and death among patients
taking hydroxychloroquine and the related drug chloroquine. The drugs, also prescribed for lupus,
can cause a number of side effects, including heart rhythm problems, severely low blood pressure
and muscle or nerve damage.

In one such report, doctors at a New York hospital said that heart rhythm abnormalities developed
in most of the 84 coronavirus patients treated with hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin,
a combo Trump has promoted.

Last month, the FDA authorized emergency use of the malaria drugs for hospitalized patients with
COVID-19 who aren’t enrolled in ongoing clinical trials. But regulators said they are investigating
life-threatening side effects reported with the drugs to poison control centers and other health authorities.

Calls to U.S. poison control centers involving the malaria drugs have recently jumped 50%, from 52
calls in March 2019 to 79 last month, according to Dr. Christopher Hoyte of the Rocky Mountain Poison
Center in Denver, Colorado.
(AP)
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:15 am
@Region Philbis,
One more time. The drug, if used on a patient, is prescribed by a doctor. That doctor is responsible not Trump. Actually Trump can recommend drugs until the cows come home. The use of that drug, or drugs, are a doctors decision and that doctor bears the responsibility, not Trump. End of story.
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:33 am
@coldjoint,
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One more time.

Okay, I'll explain it to you one more time. He's one of the most powerful rulers on the planet and nearly half the people of the USA are disposed to agree with anything he says. To interrupt a briefing by respected public health officials and suggest some unproven medicine as a cure to a dangerous and as yet not completely understood virus is the height of irresponsibility. Regardless of the high opinion he has of himself he is not a scientist, he is not a physician, he is not a pharmacist. He has no business hawking unproven medical cures and covering his ass by asking, "What have you got to lose?" End of story.

You're welcome.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:35 am
@hightor,
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He's one of the most powerful rulers on the planet

He is not a doctor and not responsible for what doctors prescribe. Period. End of story.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 08:22 pm
About the title of this thread. It is misleading. Chloroquine is being conflated with Hydroxychloroquine. It is a much less dangerous drug than Chloroquine.

This is like conflating illegal immigration with legal immigration.

farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 24 Apr, 2020 11:32 pm
@coldjoint,
Dosnt matter really. Its only a slight molecule addition to the chloroquine (by 1 oxygen) that changes the Octanol /Water partitioning coefficient by 4.63 to 2.12. Actually the really DANGEROUS one is hydroxychloroquine SULFATE(thats the one the guy drank as a fish bowl cleaner ) which is more conservative and readily dissolves about 10 times quicker than ither chloroquine OR Hydroxychloroquine.
When making HCQ you start with CQ and oxygenate it. We know what McGentrix was talking about
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