Flag Burning

As for wearing apparel, I think they are wrong. We should be allowed to wear the flag.

Just think:

http://www.fubbershmor.com/DesignRex.jpg

(Courtesy Napolean Dynamite)

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As I understand it, cross burning was originally used as a call to arms or a declaration of war in Scotland and it had no racial overtones. Those overtones were added by the Klan and it is most certainly used for intimidation.

And "things" are not just "things" and we most certainly do examine intent. If we didn't that ELF guy wouldn't be spending 22 years in prison for setting a logging truck on fire and ELF wouldn't be the top domestic terrorist group the FBI is watching.

To me the big difference between such acts and flag burning are the intended victims. Burning a flag is an attack on ideas; burning a cross or a truck is an attack on specific individuals or groups.

I don't think every Americans feel personally at risk when some knucklehead burns a flag. I do think that every black person and every logger feels at risk when people start burning crosses and trucks.

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DontTreadOnMe wrote:

as i understand the rules of displaying the u.s. flag, if the desecration amendment passes, these would be a criminal offense...

according to the flag code, executive order 10834

Sec. 8. ?- respect for flag

* The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery...

* The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

I subscribe to a newspaper (the Chicago Tribune) that has an American flag as part of its masthead.

http://www.tampabayprimer.org/images/chicago_tribune_05_03_04.jpg

If I throw away my newspaper in the garbage, am I desecrating the flag? Should I burn all of my old newspapers, even if my city has an ordinance against burning trash? If I go to a fish market, do I have to tell them to wrap my purchase in a copy of the Chicago Sun-Times so that the flag will not be brought into disrepute?

I won't even get into the issue of bird-cage liners.

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joefromchicago wrote:

DontTreadOnMe wrote:
as i understand the rules of displaying the u.s. flag, if the desecration amendment passes, these would be a criminal offense...

according to the flag code, executive order 10834

Sec. 8. ?- respect for flag

* The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery...

* The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

I subscribe to a newspaper (the Chicago Tribune) that has an American flag as part of its masthead.

If I throw away my newspaper in the garbage, am I desecrating the flag? Should I burn all of my old newspapers, even if my city has an ordinance against burning trash? If I go to a fish market, do I have to tell them to wrap my purchase in a copy of the Chicago Sun-Times so that the flag will not be brought into disrepute?

I won't even get into the issue of bird-cage liners.

... and you must stop wearing those paper hats you're so fond of making.

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And what will these good ol' boys from heartland Kentucky say about the ammendment?
http://www.kyvacation.com/cgi-bin/listman/listings/l0350.html

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These are indeed weighty and vexing issues Joe . . . obviously, no one with more than half a brain (i'm almost certain you qualify) would switch to The Sun-Times . . . my only thought is that you need either to subscribe to The New York Times, or The Times of London. In either case, when once you have lined your bird's cage, you will have pleased the right-wing as well as elevated the tone of your avian captivity.

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Setanta wrote:

These are indeed weighty and vexing issues Joe . . . obviously, no one with more than half a brain (i'm almost certain you qualify) would switch to The Sun-Times

I concur. Wrapping a fish in the Tribune might bring disrepute to the flag, but wrapping it in the Sun-Times would bring disrepute to the fish.

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LMAO . . . how very true . . .

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I think the freedom of speech is no more likely to be harmed by a flag amendment than is the US likely to be harmed by the burning of the occasional flag.

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Well, of course there is the God's True Written Word ammendment and the Dear Leader ammendment.

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blatham wrote:

Well, of course there is the God's True Written Word ammendment and the Dear Leader ammendment.

ssshhhhhh! don't give 'em any ideas, man !!!

but i did hear that they are modifying the Get Clinton at All Costs amendment to better reflect current needs; titled the Teflon Administration amendment... :wink:

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