squinney
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 08:21 am
As for wearing apparel, I think they are wrong. We should be allowed to wear the flag.

Just think:

http://www.fubbershmor.com/DesignRex.jpg


(Courtesy Napolean Dynamite)
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boomerang
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 09:37 am
As I understand it, cross burning was originally used as a call to arms or a declaration of war in Scotland and it had no racial overtones. Those overtones were added by the Klan and it is most certainly used for intimidation.

And "things" are not just "things" and we most certainly do examine intent. If we didn't that ELF guy wouldn't be spending 22 years in prison for setting a logging truck on fire and ELF wouldn't be the top domestic terrorist group the FBI is watching.

To me the big difference between such acts and flag burning are the intended victims. Burning a flag is an attack on ideas; burning a cross or a truck is an attack on specific individuals or groups.

I don't think every Americans feel personally at risk when some knucklehead burns a flag. I do think that every black person and every logger feels at risk when people start burning crosses and trucks.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 09:58 am
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

I subscribe to a newspaper (the Chicago Tribune) that has an American flag as part of its masthead.
http://www.tampabayprimer.org/images/chicago_tribune_05_03_04.jpg
If I throw away my newspaper in the garbage, am I desecrating the flag? Should I burn all of my old newspapers, even if my city has an ordinance against burning trash? If I go to a fish market, do I have to tell them to wrap my purchase in a copy of the Chicago Sun-Times so that the flag will not be brought into disrepute?

I won't even get into the issue of bird-cage liners.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 10:06 am
joefromchicago wrote:
DontTreadOnMe wrote:

I subscribe to a newspaper (the Chicago Tribune) that has an American flag as part of its masthead.
http://www.tampabayprimer.org/images/chicago_tribune_05_03_04.jpg
If I throw away my newspaper in the garbage, am I desecrating the flag? Should I burn all of my old newspapers, even if my city has an ordinance against burning trash? If I go to a fish market, do I have to tell them to wrap my purchase in a copy of the Chicago Sun-Times so that the flag will not be brought into disrepute?

I won't even get into the issue of bird-cage liners.


... and you must stop wearing those paper hats you're so fond of making.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 10:47 am
And what will these good ol' boys from heartland Kentucky say about the ammendment?
http://www.kyvacation.com/cgi-bin/listman/listings/l0350.html
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 10:50 am
These are indeed weighty and vexing issues Joe . . . obviously, no one with more than half a brain (i'm almost certain you qualify) would switch to The Sun-Times . . . my only thought is that you need either to subscribe to The New York Times, or The Times of London. In either case, when once you have lined your bird's cage, you will have pleased the right-wing as well as elevated the tone of your avian captivity.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 11:07 am
Setanta wrote:
These are indeed weighty and vexing issues Joe . . . obviously, no one with more than half a brain (i'm almost certain you qualify) would switch to The Sun-Times

I concur. Wrapping a fish in the Tribune might bring disrepute to the flag, but wrapping it in the Sun-Times would bring disrepute to the fish.
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Setanta
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 11:09 am
LMAO . . . how very true . . .
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Scrat
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 12:23 pm
I think the freedom of speech is no more likely to be harmed by a flag amendment than is the US likely to be harmed by the burning of the occasional flag.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 12:31 pm
Well, of course there is the God's True Written Word ammendment and the Dear Leader ammendment.
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DontTreadOnMe
 
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Reply Mon 27 Jun, 2005 02:31 pm
blatham wrote:
Well, of course there is the God's True Written Word ammendment and the Dear Leader ammendment.


ssshhhhhh! don't give 'em any ideas, man !!!

but i did hear that they are modifying the Get Clinton at All Costs amendment to better reflect current needs; titled the Teflon Administration amendment... :wink:
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