@livinglava,
Quote:It's a distraction to focus on a person's honesty or dishonesty as a person instead of discussing whether information is true or not and why.
Whether or not what is discussed is true or not, and why, is how our discussions have started out. Unfortunately, you kept sticking to your 'truth' while:
- avoiding discussing any information to the contrary
- refusing to answer questions
- accusing others of not answering questions, then when asked 'which one', refusing to state which one
- making faulty comparisons
- misrepresenting others views
- exaggerating
- frequently taking arguments out of context
- providing vague denials that don't say anything specific, then refusing to clarify/articulate what you find wrong, despite repeated requests
- being unable to reconcile inconsistencies while claiming deeper understanding, but refusing to articulate that deeper understanding
- etc
I am able to provide multiple quotes for each of those. In some categories, tens of quotes.
Given the frequency and breath of such intellectually dishonest behaviour, any discussion about whether or not the subject matter is true or not became impossible to rationally discuss...and it became necessary to then talk about the behaviours...which you continued to avoid...which lead to the necessity to talk about honesty.
However, given the extremes you've gone to in this thread, which reinforces your behaviour in previous threads, I don't hold any illusions that this conversation will have any effect on you. To me, it is incredible in the extreme - the views you hold in relation to honesty.There are groups of people in this world who do find change incredibly difficult, and perhaps you are one of those.