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What If Trump resigns or is Removed From Office?

 
 
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 09:20 am
@oralloy,
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I am engaging in no such name-calling.

then, by your definition, neither am I.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 09:25 am
@farmerman,
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then, by your definition, neither am I.

Wrong again. You can't help yourself. It is a big part of the group think you ascribe to.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 10:04 am
@oralloy,
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The Constitution says no such thing.
The 2nd amendment says nothing really but the Articles about impeachment and the supporting arguments in the Federalist papers are quite detailed and compelling. Im giving you the time to find and absorb what the constitution does or does not say.
You shouldnt try to cover up your ignorance with lies , you should use your ignorance as a step to larning.



Also, your insistance about an ultimate count on electors doesnt relly mean to have a full populational count of electors , it can mean that a "Winner take all; system needs to be abandoned" or a mathematical apportioning formula for the large states (like Cal or Texas) also needs to be considered to get closer and closer to "one man one vote"

Dont concentrate on what you think CANT happen (You conservatives are always open to the roadblock), consider, instead, what MAY work better.

georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 11:25 am
Crazy times out there. House Democrats are frantically pursuing an impeachment in the absence of any real crime, convinced, as they are of Trump's inherent evil and criminality. Trump continues his often crude, self-centered and overdone responses to it all. Meanwhile the Justice Department continues it's criminal investigation into the origins of the likely grossly illegal monitoring of the Trump campaign dating back to mid 2016 and a possible organized conspiracy, involving the previous administration and the Clinton campaign to defeat or unseat him.

Passions are inflamed on both sides and participants exhibit often nutty credulity for their patrons and hatred for the opposition.

In the background our economy continues to soar, and our Foreign policy appears to be going well both in the Mideast and other areas. The new left Democrat Presidential candidates continue to make themselves unelectable, while their appointed "moderate savior" Biden looks more hapless sand damaged every day. It's hard to reliably predict anything on the political scene these days, but I'm inclined to to see a Trump victory in the coming election. ( I don't see any likelihood of a successful impeachment action.)

Interestingly some similar domestic political patterns are visible in other areas around the world today. Certainly the domestic political furor in the UK is as chaotic as ours, while on the Continent populist political movements are visible everywhere. Now the turmoil is spreading to Latin America as a new cycle of populism in various forms appears to be rising. China is facing similar issues in Hong Kong along with growing economic challenges.

Interesting times !
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 11:32 am
@georgeob1,
Too bad just being a nut job doesn't automatically expel him from office. But the same rule could apply to Pence and Pelosi.
RABEL222
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 02:25 pm
@edgarblythe,
You forgot Sanders in your list of nut jobs.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 04:00 pm
@edgarblythe,
edgarblythe wrote:

Too bad just being a nut job doesn't automatically expel him from office. But the same rule could apply to Pence and Pelosi.


I believe you could as well add Biden, Warren Sanders, Booker, Harris and the others to that list
farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 05:22 pm
@georgeob1,
They dont have their finger on "the button" .So we can see their mental states from whichever side of the pole we view it. Trump, on the other hand, is down right scary. I suppose youve read Mark Bowdens piece in the last Atlantic?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 07:13 pm
@farmerman,
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Mark Bowdens piece in the last Atlantic?

The Atlantic only has 500,000 subscribers. Mark Bowden is a story teller, historical events notwithstanding, he is still a story teller.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 07:17 pm
@georgeob1,
You used to sound kind of reasonable, in a scary right wing way. Adding Sanders to the list is downright spooky.
georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:06 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think Sanders is a serious and authentic person with a good deal more substance and integrity than any of the other Democrat candidates. I believe that is the source of his enduring support among a very loyal cadre of 26% or so of Democrat voters. If he becomes their candidate he will likely do a good deal better than that. However, I don't believe he is electable precisely because of his Socialist views. Frankly I don't think Warren, Biden or any of the other Democrat candidates are electable either for that reason and others peculiar to them as individuals. My impression is that the emerging new left wing of the Democrat party is much farther left than most American voters and sufficiently self absorbed in their own rhetoric to somehow be blissfully unaware of that fact.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:15 pm
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:

They dont have their finger on "the button" .So we can see their mental states from whichever side of the pole we view it. Trump, on the other hand, is down right scary. I suppose youve read Mark Bowdens piece in the last Atlantic?


Despite his sometimes nonsensical rhetoric, I believe Trump has pursued a much more prudent foreign policy than any of his recent predecessors. We do need to husband our resources and stand back from becoming the world's permanent police force. Our NATO allies and other supposed allies have happily stood back and allowed us to carry the burdens of our much too intrusive policies in the Mideast & Persian Gulf. More importantly the nations there need to come to grips with their regional issues and start finding their own solutions. Here I include everything from Turkey to Iran, Saudi Arabia and Yemen, That won't begin until we make it clear that we will act only in our self interest - just as we expect them to start doing. Preventing the alignment of Russia and China, or stated another way keeping Russia aligned with the West is clearly in our self-interest in the current era.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 10:14 pm
https://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk110319dBP20191101094525.jpg
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Real Music
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 10:27 pm
Quote:
What If Trump resigns or is Removed From Office?


roger
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 11:03 pm
@Real Music,
I enjoyed watching.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 03:26 am
@georgeob1,
Russia and China have already rejoined . That was . news back in 2018.
As far as "foreign policy", I see neither a purposeful war hawk, nor a savvy policy in effect. Trumps self- dealing seems to be more important to him than the nations interests.

To me, He's the re-embodiment of Neville Chamberlain.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 09:11 am
@coldjoint,
Actually hes a reporter /writer of history in creative style. You wish to call him a story teller, then youve made my point, you must deny the factual bases of his last Atlantic Article. The 500000 subscribers is just a ploy from your corner of attempted refuge.

The Atlantic still has a paid circulation of several million (they still have newstands and we can get articles on the eb too FOR FREE!!)

coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 11:37 am
@farmerman,
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The magazine, subscribed to by over 500,000 readers, publishes ten times a year.

That is not 500,000, maybe a little more, but it is surely not millions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlantic#cite_note-37
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InfraBlue
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 03:25 pm
@Real Music,
mark
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 03:34 pm
@InfraBlue,
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mark

Twain, oops wrong thread.
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