Was god choosing Jesus just; or should the Father have chosen the cross for himself?

Greatest I am
Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2019 11:56 am
HabibUrrehman wrote:

Really is that the answer? So pretty much you are rejecting entire Bible and you call yourself Christian or Agnostic Christian? Seems more agnostic to me...

Get it strait.
I call myself a Gnostic Christian.

I do not reject the bible. I just don't read it your morally brain dead way.

Let me prove it to you with a simple question at the end of this explanation on how I read the bible.

I keep a bible in the house even though I think this quote quite correct.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
― Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion

Then again, I am a Gnostic Christian and know how to read the filth in it.

Said of Gnostic Christian versus Christian bible reading practices.

“Both read the Bible day and night; but you read black where I read white.”
William Blake.

I would take this further and advise you to read any scriptures from as many POV as is within you. Question everything including yourself.

The bible, if read as a book of wisdom, does have much wisdom though.

You just have to read it the way Gnostics do and reverse a lot of the Christian morals.

Christians call evil good while Gnostic Christians call evil, evil.

I E. Gnostic Christians think that bible God, the demiurge to us, is quite immoral for thinking that torturing King David's baby for 6 days before finally killing it is good justice.

Gnostic Christians think that evil while Christians think that a good form of justice.

Which group do you think is right?

Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2019 12:21 pm
@Greatest I am,
If your interpretation of Bible makes you a God then I don't have to tell you that you are mislead by Satan.
Greatest I am
Reply Tue 22 Oct, 2019 02:53 pm
HabibUrrehman wrote:

If your interpretation of Bible makes you a God then I don't have to tell you that you are mislead by Satan.

I do not define god as you do as I hold no supernatural/stupid beliefs.

If you believe in a real Satan, talking serpent and donkey and a water walking Jesus, best to ignore me as I am not as stupid as you are.

The Jesus I follow is this one and you can shove your genocidal version, you know where.

Here is the real way to salvation that Jesus taught.

Matthew 6:22 The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Allan Watts explain those quotes in detail.

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