Frolic,
Quote:"Why Iraq? Why not Israel? Why not Libya? Why not Pakistan?
Why not Chechnya? Why not Congo? Why?"
Iraq is and has been for many years in violation of the cease-fire conditions that brought the Gulf War to a halt. Israel and Pakistan are currently allies. Chechnya is an internal matter for the Russians to resolve. Why do you think we should focus on the Congo? Why? Why assume that the United States is at fault, rather than Saddam? Why?
Quote:"You say US military will make every effort to preserve innocent life and property. Explain me how they can do that when they intend to us the Mother of All Bombs. Bush even said some weeks ago US army is prepared to us nuclear arms."
The MOAB (only one of a number of exceptional weapons available in our arsenal) is mission specific ordinance. It is not intended for use against urban areas. We always reserve the right to use any weapon in our arsenal in appropriate circumstances. The use of nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons by the United States is very unlikely, even if they are used against us. However, our overwhelming superiority in special munitions is a deterrent against their use by folks like Saddam and Kim Jong-Il.
Quote:"You say this is a continuation of the Gulf War that ended in a cease-fire over a decade ago. Why did they not finish the job then? Why did they gave people hope and left them to die. Many died because they started rioting and hoped for US backing. But the US left Saddam in power and betrayed the kurds and Sji'its. "
It was a terrible mistake not to have finished the job at the time. Now it is time to rectify the mistake, not perpetuate it. The Gulf War was a UN action where the U.S. led a coalition with the limited purpose of ejecting Saddam from Kuwait. It did that, and to take Baghdad would have overstepped the authority under which Desert Storm operated. Many feared the instability that would result if Saddam were displaced. The decisive defeat of Saddam's forces led folks to believe that the Iraqi People would topple him themselves. However, he utilized the "peace" to murder those who we expected would finish him off. The UN and the United States must share some of the guilt for the murder of those people. This time lets stay the course until the Saddam is permanently removed from the scene.
Quote:"You say Saddam has reportedly moved missile launchers into the far west. Who said that? The US and UK govt? The same people copied a masters thesis to accuse Iraq. And they lied about nuclear weapons owned by Saddam. And u want me to belief them?"
Who are you going to believe; Saddam Hussein, or the leaders of the Free World? Saddam Hussein has never told the truth when a lie would serve. This is a man who has modeled his life on Adolph Hitler and Stalin. I really doubt that the Secretary of State cribbed a Master's Thesis, when he has access to state secrets and a highly skilled staff to prepare his remarks. There may be similarities, but that only makes the grad student insightful in their analysis. Though some have claimed that our government forged documents to mislead people into the belief that Saddam is seeking nuclear weapons materials, that is not shown. Saddam has sought nuclear weapons in the past, and is not the sort of fellow who abandons the quest. Perhaps someone did forge documents, but we don't know who it might have been. I expect that when the suspect documents were too quickly accepted because they merely confirmed what we already firmly believe. That is always a problem when doing intelligence analysis. We too often give up our objectivity when unsupported evidence is found that appears to confirm our beliefs. Mistakes, but not lies, characterize the public utterances of Allied leadership.
Frank,
You are certainly not alone in your opinion that use of military force to resolve the Iraqi mess is mistaken. Many others do not agree with that assessment. Many have faith that the humanistic values of Western Civilization and the United States will prevail. We shall shortly see what we shall see.
I take personal umbridge at the suggestion that those who support the American effort are "selling out this country". To support one's country is the very definition of patriotism. Most of us have steered clear of questioning the loyalty of others whose opinions are different from our own. Your remark is a disturbing departure from that rule of civility.
Perhaps it is acceptable to say outrageous things about our President, but to argue that he is worse than Saddam Hussein is just not true. The shrub has never murdered anyone, can you say the same for Saddam who has bathed the region repeatedly in blood? The shrub probably isn't bright, but he has exhibited the resolve to finally bring a halt to one of the most destabilizing regimes in the world. This is a necessary war, and one that hopefully will reduce the risk of other more expensive wars. Perhaps, that will not occur but the attempt is worthy and honorable.
If you cannot see that, shake yourself awake. You are sleep walking through history.