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Fri 5 Jul, 2019 09:05 am
Documentaries: Untold History of the US, Born in Gaza, The War Show and Last Men In Aleppo.

"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.

Gaza 2014. 507 children killed and 3,598 wounded. 80% of Gaza's population depends on humanitarian aid. More than 400,000 children need psychological support in Gaza.

Once again WH supports a dictator who kills his own people: Bashar al-Assad (Syria) against the Islamic State. WH still kills innocent civilians (Vietnam, Gaza and Syria). Israel did not learn anything from World War II. The WH dirty her hands with innocent blood. Examples: Vietnam, Gaza and Syria.

The International Criminal Court never judged the crimes of the United States and Israel. The International Criminal Court is useless. Gaza is a concentration camp. The opinions of American Press about Israel and Palestinians are incomplete. The American Press is bootlicker of WH.
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coldjoint
 
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Sat 6 Jul, 2019 04:13 pm
@harveyulric,
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The International Criminal Court never judged the crimes of the United States and Israel.

Probably because there are none. They both deal with terrorists.
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vikorr
 
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Sun 7 Jul, 2019 05:05 am
@harveyulric,
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"The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion, but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence..." Samuel Huntington.
The quote is using selective blindness for this assertion.

The organised violence uses advanced technology. Advanced technology comes from idea, built on idea, built on idea....and so on, so very many more times down the line. The ideas are generated through placing a high value on innovation, ideas, and entrepreneurship. They were supported by ideas of lawfulness (ie minimised corruption) and security (what is yours stays yours. Business transactions are enforceable, etc). The point is - there are many ideas, and values that supported advancement, to a much greater degree than the East (Some places like Asia are catching up, and perhaps even overtaking the west in some regards)

Also, the superiority of the values & ideas that drove the cultures to advanced economies allowed, in the quotes own words - the superiority of their version of organised violence.

Organised violence is itself is driven by values and ideas. And in this area, the quote is saying they had superior (as in more advanced) ideas and superior (as in more effective) values - directly relating of course, directly to organised violence (how you conduct war is affected by your values)

Now the above is very different from whether or not the values are subjectively better, or morally or ethically better...but one can't say the quote (of Samuel Huntington) and think it the truth without wilfully ignoring all those ideas and (and the values that drove them) resulting in superiority in many facets.

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Perhaps a different quote would have been more supportive, or accurate, relating to the things that follows in you OP.

Syria itself is in a very sad place.
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oralloy
 
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Tue 23 Jul, 2019 09:06 am
harveyulric wrote:
Gaza 2014. 507 children killed and 3,598 wounded.

That's what they get for starting a war and trying to massacre innocent people.


harveyulric wrote:
80% of Gaza's population depends on humanitarian aid. More than 400,000 children need psychological support in Gaza.

Maybe they should try doing something other than perpetually trying to murder innocent Israelis.


harveyulric wrote:
Once again WH supports a dictator who kills his own people: Bashar al-Assad (Syria) against the Islamic State.

Assad and his genocide are supported by Russia, not by the US.


harveyulric wrote:
WH still kills innocent civilians (Vietnam, Gaza and Syria).

Collateral damage is unfortunate, but it is necessary to stand up to the bad guys.


harveyulric wrote:
Israel did not learn anything from World War II.

Oh yes they did. Never again.


harveyulric wrote:
The WH dirty her hands with innocent blood. Examples: Vietnam, Gaza and Syria.

Collateral damage is unfortunate, but it is necessary to stand up to the bad guys.


harveyulric wrote:
The International Criminal Court never judged the crimes of the United States and Israel.

No such crimes.


harveyulric wrote:
The International Criminal Court is useless. Gaza is a concentration camp.

The victims who have received justice there would beg to differ.


harveyulric wrote:
Gaza is a concentration camp.

Perhaps they should try to do something other than murder innocent Israelis.


harveyulric wrote:
The opinions of American Press about Israel and Palestinians are incomplete.

My opinion on the matter is entirely complete..
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